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Jodha Akbar 159: Samhaar!

Post by sashashyam on 2014-01-25, 16:27

Folks,

I could not understand why the CVs have dispensed with the usual  Friday night suspense, but I for one was glad they did.

Samhaar: There was Jodha Begum  on the riverbank, hidden behind some foliage, and she had Salima behind her, literally and figuratively. She stretches  the pratyancha  (string) of her bow to its fullest, eyes glaring in total concentration, and lets fly. Five arrows, shot simultaneously,   whiz thru the air in perfect formation, like the Sukhoi fighter jets at the  final aerial display at the Republic Day parade. Jodha  has obviously expanded  the hunar  she had displayed at Amer (3 arrows at a time) by 66.67% to make it  5, and all dead on target!
Cut to the boat, and there was Benazir, looking like a human pincushion, skewered by  all the 5 arrows distributed over her torso, and keeling over in sudden  death, her mouth open in shock and agony.  Very filmy, or rather like something out the Mahabharata, but enormously appealing, nonetheless. So much more satisfying than Jodha interposing herself and blocking the kiss,  or the pair of them, Salima and Jodha, disguising themselves and tailing Jalal and his khaas tohfa.
There is something in one's psyche, rooted in our epics, that calls, not for the legal punishment of great evil,  but for  its samhaar. Destruction that is total, swift, brutal, inescapable and for good.  The CVs  seem to have started out with the Savitri theme , and ended up with  a Durga, the Mahishasuramardini, and I loved it..

Post-samhaar scenarios:
Now the question remains of  how Jalal, who looked totally bewildered and (literally) at sea (well, yes, river, but one has to take a few literary liberties!) , will react to this sudden disposal of his khaas tohfa. Before Benazir was reduced to the aforesaid  pincushion, he was looking at her with a very curious measuring gaze. But as she approached him with glacial deliberation for the kiss of death, he looked sort of  frozen and unable to move, like a rabbit caught in the headlights of a speeding car coming directly at it.

It also remains to be seen if Jodha stands her ground or simply disappears, leaving Jalal to guess what happened : how, why and by whom?  The latter option is a non-starter from the point of view of advancing our lo..ong-awaited "epic"  love story. If Jalal does not know that is Jodha Begum who has rescued him for the very jaws of death, how will the mohabbat ka sailaab,   that Sheikh Salim Chisti proclaims is going to sweep all ahead of it, materialize at all?  
So it has to be the former.  Given this, I would have wanted Jodha  to follow the scenario I had outlined in my last post -  to run straight to Jalal, embrace him tightly, and weep all over his blue velvet choga, babbling incoherently You are safe, Shahenshah, you are safe,  you are safe, you are safe!!!! (I should actually have had her say Aapke praan surakshit hain, Shahenshah!,  but then that is not an exclamation that can be repeated four times and still sound snappy. So I have stayed with the English version).
But now, seeing that he is in a boat in midstream and she is on the bank, that is logistically impossible.  If she were to hurl herself at him after he had come  ashore, it would be anti-climactic.
The third and the worst option would be if he  chooses to repeat his fishing expedition in the Agra palace pool,  and jumps in to try and pull Benazir's  body out of the water into which she must have toppled. In that case,  neither of these moving Jalal-Jodha embraces would be feasible. And from my point of view, the whole post-samhaar sequence would have become a (literally!) damp  squib!
Next, the whole procedure of proving that Benazir was indeed a vishkanya  will have to be gone thru . This would be vital for making Jodha's skewering her a justified, preventive  execution to save the life of the Shahenshah, and not a  cold-blooded murder out of jealousy and spite, which is what Mahaam will make it out to be..  As Benazir would already have been fast forwarded to the particular dozakh that is her due, the only living source of proof of her vishkanya identity would be Zakira.
I thus hope  that Jalal moves fast to have   her seized as soon as he can get back  to Agra. This might not be as easy as it would appear at first sight. Zakira would very likely have already  fled,  if not from Agra at least from the palace, as she would not be expecting Benazir to come back  to the palace after assassinating the Shahenshah, but to disappear by diving from the boat  into the water. So Zakira would have been given a specific meeting place where she would join  the triumphant Benazir, and no one would know where that was to be .
There are too many ifs and buts, and one can do nothing but  wait for Monday. But  the saint of Ajmer gave me hope that things will be straightened out between Jalal and Jodha without any further complications, for he  could hardly have been thinking of a pancha varshiya yojana for getting them together to begin writing their story on the pages of history in the mandatory sunehre akshar!
Jodha and the divine passion: The earlier scene between Jodha and Moti was deliberately revelatory, almost stagily so. It was as if the scripwriters were now determined to  force the Jalal ke liye Jodha ka prem card on us, like a conjurer doing  a card trick. I had always suspected that it would be so!
Paridhi was  excellent as the  distraught Jodha, worn out by worry and her escalating fears for Jalal's life. Moti, by contrast, was a complete letdown, her flat, monotone voice reducing her extremely significant lines to something like a school essay  learnt by heart.
Jodha's desperation comes across clearly,  as her eyes constantly brim over and her voice cracks as she repeats frantically that she has to save the Shahenshah from the vishkanya whom he has now decided to marry. There is no resentment at this decision of his, only a frantic determination to prevent it and  save his  life.
She cannot explain why she is so desperate, when she will still not even concede that she sees him as her pati. The sophistry with which she  seeks to make a distinction between the  pati   she will not acknowledge him to be, and  the sowbhagya chhina  whom she cannot allow to be killed, would be laughable if it were not so pathetic and unconsciously moving.
Her refutations of Moti's (flat enough to reduce one to despair. How one misses the old Moti!)  assertions that she has begun to love her husband are almost mechanical, and she no  longer berates Moti, as she used to,  for  going beyond her limits and treading on forbidden territory.  This Jodha has no thoughts for anyone or anything  but the Shahenshah, and the danger that threatens his life, as she curses her helplessness and her inability to avert this disaster.  
So much so that she berates her beloved Kanha for being so unhelpful to her  in her acute distress, despite all the fervent poojas and the bhog that she had always lavished on him. Kanha, who is a  trikaladarshi  and antaryami,  knows even better than  Sheikh Salim Chisti how things are going to turn out. So he continues to smile benignly on Jodha, driving her to even more aggressive complaints, and demands that he should protect the Shahenshah from the vishkanya.
By the time Moti arrives at The Shove - the  first time anyone has seen this discussed, and so forthrightly, with Jodha - Jodha's  mind is so totally preoccupied with the vishkanya that I doubt if she took in much of it. But I am sure what Moti expounded at length - that after that incident, Jalal had been always unsmiling and withdrawn and  asantrusht,  that she, Jodha, had never been happy either, that Jalal was marrying Benazir only to make Jodha jealous (not true, but it hardly matters in this context), that on his side too it was not ghrina or pratishodh but prem - would have registered somewhere in Jodha's subconscious,  to be dug out and dissected later.
The Jodha-Sharifuddin scene when she descends on him without notice in the prison (what kind of prison security is there when beshawled women can walk in and out at will and meet prisoners? ) also seems  intended to make just one point : that Jodha loves Jalal deeply and is ready to do anything to save his life. Jealousy flares up in Sharifuddin's voice as he comments on this, till Jodha reprimands him and he reverts to his habitual, ingratiating manner. There is  no other noteworthy outcome; the new method of exposing Benazir he suggests, by cutting off her supply of snake venom, might have worked if  properly implemented, but that needs time. And after the discussion with the supportive Salima, Jodha realises that time is precisely what she does not have.
Whence, presumably, Jodha's decision to prevent any murderous move by Benazir by shooting at her with enough arrows to  make sure she does not survive. Of course it has to be at the very last moment. At  one second  to doom, to be precise!  It is was not so, where would the  tension be?
Jalal: Jalal, sadly for him, does not have even a flat voiced Moti,  or rather the male equivalent thereof, who could fearlessly hold a mirror up to him and force him to face the truth. Atgah Khan is hardly a satisfactory substitute.  So he is reduced to mooning about and remembering the pre-wedding sharts  that Jodha had laid down for him. The exchange with Atgah Khan seems meant merely to make the point that Jalal too is very restless and equally uneasy, with the ever present hurt of  his  rejection by Jodha clouding his zehen  like a miasma.
In the scene with Hamida, Salima and later Benazir, Jalal, though pleasant and accommodating towards Benazir, looks detached and weary of his impending nikaah and much else.
This apart, Adiana and I seem to have lost out in our pretzel contest, for Jalal seems to have had no idea that it was Benazir who was Abul Mali's secret weapon, not to speak of her being a zahreeli dosiza. Unless of course the CVs do a conjuring trick next week, and make out that he knew the score all the time and was only stringing Benazir along. It does not seem at all likely now, but then, like Napoleon, the CVs do not have the word impossible' in their dictionary (and it is not a Chennai Express style bakwaas dictionary!)
The rest of the episode was nowhere near as significant as the above: the Benazir-Zakira conversations (Zakira seems more dedicated to fulfilling  their maqsad  than even Benazir!), Benazir coming to  ask Jalal to accompany her to the dargah across the Jamuna from Agra, the Mahaam-Ruqaiya love feast (the CVs have now completed their hatchet job on Begum Ruqaiya Sultan, though her fierce loyalty to hamare Jalal is as strong as ever), and finally, the important Hamida-Salima meeting, which paves the way for Salima to offer  to help Jodha, and thus for the duo  to end  up at the river bank  that cold winter night.
Miscellaneous: For all her aseem husn, Benazir does not look at all begum-like  even in full regalia.  I was reminded of the old saying that you cannot make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.
Hoshiyaar seems to  still  suffer from a terminal case of foot in the mouth disease.
Why on earth would Jalal and Benazir cross the river  in a smallish boat with apparently no armed escort? Surely they would have a large enough boat to accommodate them all?
What lies ahead: So we have finally arrived, it seems , at the gateway to the amar prem kahani that we signed up  for. At least so I hope. If this too turns out to be a mrigtrishna, it would be  a very sad disappointment. But I do not think it will. Not now, not with all the build  up by Sheikh Salim Chisti.  
It will seem very odd for a while, to have Jalal and  Jodha being civil and sensible at the same time, for till now , it has been, alternately, the one or the other, but never both. But I am sure we will all soon get used to it, till the next falling out between our duo materializes. Not too soon, I hope!
In the immediate future, one thing is for sure. Jodha, this new Jodha, is not going to be cold or distant with Jalal for not having believed her about Benazir. She will be too limp with relief at his being safe now, and too  lighthearted at being freed at last from the crushing burden of the last few days,  for her to sulk. But it will be very interesting to see how their first post-Benazir conversation goes!
Shyamala B.Cowsik
PS: I see that there is a strong current of opinion in the forum that the shooting of Benazir  is a dream. I do  not think so, in good part because of the pointed connect between that and Jodha's 3 arrow display at Amer. If, however, it does turn out to be a dream, any alternative sequence will be far less satisfying. As for me, I have already had a lot of fun with the title and this post!
As for the fears that Jodha will not be able to prove that it was justified since Benazir was a vishkanya, Jalal can surely get his men to force Zakira to talk!

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Re: Jodha Akbar 159: Samhaar!

Post by JAISMINE on 2014-01-25, 23:10

Awesome post shyamala aunty,.....luved the precap,I don't think it's a dream....luks lyk Jo has vented out all the frustration,anger n hatred of the viewers on ben by shooting 5 arrows at her n ending this horrible track... :lol!: ....now I thought of too many things while reading ur post,listing them below:

jallu has now truly n totally fallen in love with Jo,coz previously he used 2 smirk or smile when the girls in his harem tried 2 cm close 2 him n he njoyed the fact that soooo many girls crave for just 1 glimpse of him.....but now..he does'nt lyk entertaining ne1 else xcept Jo...he froze as soon as ben came close..as if saying..back-off I'm already booked.....yeah he did luk confused but maybe dats bcoz...this alien feeling 2wards other women is new to him n unlyk Jo he can't deny ben her rights as she's his will-be-begum... detective 

I don't think Jo will run away..she'll stand n cry tears of joy n relief,....Salima mi8 drag her away.. scratch 

Jallu mi8 c VIBGYOR coloured blood...or mebbe fishes vl die due 2 ben's poison.....or he'll trust Jo due 2 salima n HB's support n try 2 get Zakira talking...etc etc.....but I don't think this investigation issue will last long as salim chisti already announced the proper starting of luv story.... bounce  cheers  cheers 

This Jo-sharifuddin part showed how desperate Jo was 2 save Jallu's life that she did'nt even think of her hatred 2wards shareef,the prison guards,her status n all other issues...but frantically ran 2 him 2 seek help 2 save her beloved Jallu's life.. Heart

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Re: Jodha Akbar 159: Samhaar!

Post by sashashyam on 2014-01-26, 09:27

My dear Jaismine, You are absolutely correct in all your comments and I must congratulate you on the fish dying after they nibble at Benazir's body. I never thought of that, but then it is night and it would take some time before the dead fish started floating to the surface. So I am not sure it would work.What I want is a crackerjack of a trial for Jodha, with her being exculpated when Zakira is caught and made to spill the beans. Let us see.Shyamala AuntyJAISMINE wrote:Awesome post shyamala aunty,.....luved the precap,I don't think it's a dream....luks lyk Jo has vented out all the frustration,anger n hatred of the viewers on ben by shooting 5 arrows at her n ending this horrible track... :lol!: ....now I thought of too many things while reading ur post,listing them below:

jallu has now truly n totally fallen in love with Jo,coz previously he used 2 smirk or smile when the girls in his harem tried 2 cm close 2 him n he njoyed the fact that soooo many girls crave for just 1 glimpse of him.....but now..he does'nt lyk entertaining ne1 else xcept Jo...he froze as soon as ben came close..as if saying..back-off I'm already booked.....yeah he did luk confused but maybe dats bcoz...this alien feeling 2wards other women is new to him n unlyk Jo he can't deny ben her rights as she's his will-be-begum... detective 

I don't think Jo will run away..she'll stand n cry tears of joy n relief,....Salima mi8 drag her away.. scratch 

Jallu mi8 c VIBGYOR coloured blood...or mebbe fishes vl die due 2 ben's poison.....or he'll trust Jo due 2 salima n HB's support n try 2 get Zakira talking...etc etc.....but I don't think this investigation issue will last long as salim chisti already announced the proper starting of luv story.... bounce  cheers  cheers 

This Jo-sharifuddin part showed how desperate Jo was 2 save Jallu's life that she did'nt even think of her hatred 2wards shareef,the prison guards,her status n all other issues...but frantically ran 2 him 2 seek help 2 save her beloved Jallu's life.. Heart

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Re: Jodha Akbar 159: Samhaar!

Post by harrybird on 2014-01-26, 09:43

Hello Shyamala Aunty,

Good morning!

I am a huge fan of your writing!!! 

Your analysis takes it to another level....its exciting, refreshing as well as soul satisfying!!!

Keep up you good work!!!

MY TAKE 

As I have mentioned in my earlier post, precap scenes will be aired on tuesday...there by giving the following options on monday

1. Jashn organized by Ruqs and MA for the nikah..( hopefully Ben will parade in her remaining mughal dresses)

2. Jodha and salima will gather further evidence against Ben before going for snake hunting ( salima in rajput dress?)

For sure 
This is not dream.... 
Ben will be dead....no chance of surviving ( thats y jodha used 5 arrows )

and girls get ready ....

JALAL WOOING JODHA...VALENTINE SPECIAL cheers  cheers  cheers

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Re: Jodha Akbar 159: Samhaar!

Post by Manasvi on 2014-01-26, 11:02

I second you, Harrybird. I think likewise.

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Re: Jodha Akbar 159: Samhaar!

Post by neha on 2014-01-26, 12:46

sashashyam wrote:Folks,

I could not understand why the CVs have dispensed with the usual  Friday night suspense, but I for one was glad they did.

Samhaar: There was Jodha Begum  on the riverbank, hidden behind some foliage, and she had Salima behind her, literally and figuratively. She stretches  the pratyancha  (string) of her bow to its fullest, eyes glaring in total concentration, and lets fly. Five arrows, shot simultaneously,   whiz thru the air in perfect formation, like the Sukhoi fighter jets at the  final aerial display at the Republic Day parade. Jodha  has obviously expanded  the hunar  she had displayed at Amer (3 arrows at a time) by 66.67% to make it  5, and all dead on target!

 ROFL  How hilarious that precap was!!!!!!! They have decided to come up with every possible supernatural act and make the lead look stupid. Rajat must be thinking when I have such a potential to do stunts then why do they need Pari to do all the action. Rolling Eyes but I must say she brought shame to Katniss Everdeen with her hunar to strike 5 arrows at once  :*lol*: 


Cut to the boat, and there was Benazir, looking like a human pincushion, skewered by  all the 5 arrows distributed over her torso, and keeling over in sudden  death, her mouth open in shock and agony.  Very filmy, or rather like something out the Mahabharata, but enormously appealing, nonetheless. So much more satisfying than Jodha interposing herself and blocking the kiss,  or the pair of them, Salima and Jodha, disguising themselves and tailing Jalal and his khaas tohfa.

Now the question remains..will Benzo lay on the bed of arrows like Bhishma Pitamah and confess everything to Jalal before succumbing to injuries or Jalal will dive in to save her and fracture his leg again and then we will have to see him in Sandhya's fav Sri Rangathar pose for another 15 days  Sleep  Sleep 

There is something in one's psyche, rooted in our epics, that calls, not for the legal punishment of great evil,  but for  its samhaar. Destruction that is total, swift, brutal, inescapable and for good.  The CVs  seem to have started out with the Savitri theme , and ended up with  a Durga, the Mahishasuramardini, and I loved it..


When Jalal, the Shehenshah has closed his eyes and not even trying to find out the truth then our beloved Jodha Begum has to do this!  :P  Samhaar is the only Moksha she can offer to the poor tortured soul(we were shown her life story wasting the 5-10 mins of show  :cry: ) of Benazir and end the curse of VishKanya.

Post-samhaar scenarios:
Now the question remains of  how Jalal, who looked totally bewildered and (literally) at sea (well, yes, river, but one has to take a few literary liberties!) , will react to this sudden disposal of his khaas tohfa. Before Benazir was reduced to the aforesaid  pincushion, he was looking at her with a very curious measuring gaze. But as she approached him with glacial deliberation for the kiss of death, he looked sort of  frozen and unable to move, like a rabbit caught in the headlights of a speeding car coming directly at it.

It also remains to be seen if Jodha stands her ground or simply disappears, leaving Jalal to guess what happened : how, why and by whom?  The latter option is a non-starter from the point of view of advancing our long-awaited "epic"  love story. If Jalal does not know that is Jodha Begum who has rescued him for the very jaws of death, how will the mohabbat ka sailaab,   that Sheikh Salim Chisti proclaims is going to sweep all ahead of it, materialize at all?  
So it has to be the former.  Given this, I would have wanted Jodha  to follow the scenario I had outlined in my last post -  to run straight to Jalal, embrace him tightly, and weep all over his blue velvet choga, babbling incoherently You are safe, Shahenshah, you are safe,  you are safe, you are safe!!!! (I should actually have had her say Aapke praan surakshit hain, Shahenshah!,  but then that is not an exclamation that can be repeated four times and still sound snappy. So I have stayed with the English version).
But now, seeing that he is in a boat in midstream and she is on the bank, that is logistically impossible.  If she were to hurl herself at him after he had come  ashore, it would be anti-climactic.

Aunty, even if Jodha kills Benazir to save her pati parmeshwar's praan which is her aan, baan and shaan, how can we say Jalal will believe her when Benazir has clearly proved Jodha wrong in DEK ? If we go by logic then Jalal will not believe her unless and until he sees Benazir's asli roop or Jodha has a solid proof against her or maybe Zakira and Abul Maali spit it out in front of Jalal, but in any case I do not understand what kind of proof Jodha can gather on her own? In any case I'm seeing Jodha in trouble again as even before knowing Benazir is going to kiss him, Jalal has seen Jodha murdering his khaas tohfa.

The third and the worst option would be if he  chooses to repeat his fishing expedition in the Agra palace pool,  and jumps in to try and pull Benazir's  body out of the water into which she must have toppled. In that case,  neither of these moving Jalal-Jodha embraces would be feasible. And from my point of view, the whole post-samhaar sequence would have become a (literally!) damp  squib!

They won't show him dive in  :P  Benazir's body will become more heavy in water which has the risk of Jalal drowning himself in an attempt to pull her out of water  Twisted Evil  Twisted Evil 

Next, the whole procedure of proving that Benazir was indeed a vishkanya  will have to be gone thru . This would be vital for making Jodha's skewering her a justified, preventive  execution to save the life of the Shahenshah, and not a  cold-blooded murder out of jealousy and spite, which is what Mahaam will make it out to be..  As Benazir would already have been fast forwarded to the particular dozakh that is her due, the only living source of proof of her vishkanya identity would be Zakira.
I thus hope  that Jalal moves fast to have   her seized as soon as he can get back  to Agra. This might not be as easy as it would appear at first sight. Zakira would very likely have already  fled,  if not from Agra at least from the palace, as she would not be expecting Benazir to come back  to the palace after assassinating the Shahenshah, but to disappear by diving from the boat  into the water. So Zakira would have been given a specific meeting place where she would join  the triumphant Benazir, and no one would know where that was to be .

Yes why would Zakira wait for her to return ? She will easily escape considering her tiny size and will join Benazir later leaving Jalal think Jodha has murdered Benzo out of jealousy and Salima a victim of Jodha's behlao-fusslaoying to accompany her in this deadly mission.

There are too many ifs and buts, and one can do nothing but  wait for Monday. But  the saint of Ajmer gave me hope that things will be straightened out between Jalal and Jodha without any further complications, for he  could hardly have been thinking of a pancha varshiya yojana for getting them together to begin writing their story on the pages of history in the mandatory sunehre akshar!
Jodha and the divine passion: The earlier scene between Jodha and Moti was deliberately revelatory, almost stagily so. It was as if the scripwriters were now determined to  force the Jalal ke liye Jodha ka prem card on us, like a conjurer doing  a card trick. I had always suspected that it would be so!

Even Baba Salim Chisti's divine dreams cannot console our poor souls that the epic love story is on its way  No  Ekta has such a tremendous power to even turn Khwaja Chisti's dreams into a nightmare for us that I refuse to keep any hope for another 100 episodes.

Paridhi was  excellent as the  distraught Jodha, worn out by worry and her escalating fears for Jalal's life. Moti, by contrast, was a complete letdown, her flat, monotone voice reducing her extremely significant lines to something like a school essay  learnt by heart.
Jodha's desperation comes across clearly,  as her eyes constantly brim over and her voice cracks as she repeats frantically that she has to save the Shahenshah from the vishkanya whom he has now decided to marry. There is no resentment at this decision of his, only a frantic determination to prevent it and  save his  life.
She cannot explain why she is so desperate, when she will still not even concede that she sees him as her pati. The sophistry with which she  seeks to make a distinction between the  pati   she will not acknowledge him to be, and  the sowbhagya chhina  whom she cannot allow to be killed, would be laughable if it were not so pathetic and unconsciously moving.

I love this Jodha! she has changed so much over the course of time that it is quite amusing to see her weep for her husband and forget all the insults and taunts. She is not the Jodha we seen in Amer, who pledged to keep Jalal ka Sar in Kaali Maa's charan and surprisingly and ironically this Jalal ki Jodha prays to Kaali Maa to save her Jalal ka Sar from that monstrous VishKanya. Heart   

Her refutations of Moti's (flat enough to reduce one to despair. How one misses the old Moti!)  assertions that she has begun to love her husband are almost mechanical, and she no  longer berates Moti, as she used to,  for  going beyond her limits and treading on forbidden territory.  This Jodha has no thoughts for anyone or anything  but the Shahenshah, and the danger that threatens his life, as she curses her helplessness and her inability to avert this disaster.  
So much so that she berates her beloved Kanha for being so unhelpful to her  in her acute distress, despite all the fervent poojas and the bhog that she had always lavished on him. Kanha, who is a  trikaladarshi  and antaryami,  knows even better than  Sheikh Salim Chisti how things are going to turn out. So he continues to smile benignly on Jodha, driving her to even more aggressive complaints, and demands that he should protect the Shahenshah from the vishkanya.

I miss old moti  :cry: . But why Jodha keeps denying her feelings for Jalal, she must have understood by now where her heart is but is too stubborn to confess it as she is somewhere not sure how Jalal will respond to her feelings for him as he still claims to be heartless and I think Maham's words of her turning into a furniture once Jalal haasils her must be haunting her, hence the denial

By the time Moti arrives at The Shove - the  first time anyone has seen this discussed, and so forthrightly, with Jodha - Jodha's  mind is so totally preoccupied with the vishkanya that I doubt if she took in much of it. But I am sure what Moti expounded at length - that after that incident, Jalal had been always unsmiling and withdrawn and  asantrusht,  that she, Jodha, had never been happy either, that Jalal was marrying Benazir only to make Jodha jealous (not true, but it hardly matters in this context), that on his side too it was not ghrina or pratishodh but prem - would have registered somewhere in Jodha's subconscious,  to be dug out and dissected later.

When Moti can see the unhappiness and frustration on Jalal's face and behaviour then why can't his so called soulmate Jodha or his best friend Ruqaiya or his doodh ka karz wali Badi Ammi feels his pain. This man is so unfortunate that he always finds himself alone when he needs them most.

The Jodha-Sharifuddin scene when she descends on him without notice in the prison (what kind of prison security is there when beshawled women can walk in and out at will and meet prisoners? ) also seems  intended to make just one point : that Jodha loves Jalal deeply and is ready to do anything to save his life. Jealousy flares up in Sharifuddin's voice as he comments on this, till Jodha reprimands him and he reverts to his habitual, ingratiating manner. There is  no other noteworthy outcome; the new method of exposing Benazir he suggests, by cutting off her supply of snake venom, might have worked if  properly implemented, but that needs time. And after the discussion with the supportive Salima, Jodha realises that time is precisely what she does not have.
Whence, presumably, Jodha's decision to prevent any murderous move by Benazir by shooting at her with enough arrows to  make sure she does not survive. Of course it has to be at the very last moment. At  one second  to doom, to be precise!  It is was not so, where would the  tension be?
Jalal: Jalal, sadly for him, does not have even a flat voiced Moti,  or rather the male equivalent thereof, who could fearlessly hold a mirror up to him and force him to face the truth. Atgah Khan is hardly a satisfactory substitute.  So he is reduced to mooning about and remembering the pre-wedding sharts  that Jodha had laid down for him. The exchange with Atgah Khan seems meant merely to make the point that Jalal too is very restless and equally uneasy, with the ever present hurt of  his  rejection by Jodha clouding his zehen  like a miasma.

Why suddenly he recollects all those memories of their wedding ?   Rolling Eyes  It was quite confusing for me but may be he still finds himself hard to come out of that time of his life when he said Qabool hai to Jodha's seemingly impossible sharts to make her his but still he finds her far away like the moon he is gazing

In the scene with Hamida, Salima and later Benazir, Jalal, though pleasant and accommodating towards Benazir, looks detached and weary of his impending nikaah and much else.
This apart, Adiana and I seem to have lost out in our pretzel contest, for Jalal seems to have had no idea that it was Benazir who was Abul Mali's secret weapon, not to speak of her being a zahreeli dosiza. Unless of course the CVs do a conjuring trick next week, and make out that he knew the score all the time and was only stringing Benazir along. It does not seem at all likely now, but then, like Napoleon, the CVs do not have the word impossible' in their dictionary (and it is not a Chennai Express style bakwaas dictionary!)

If Jalal knows about VishKanya then how can they show Jodha Mahaan ?  Evil or Very Mad  and save her Satyavan from the clutches of Yama

The rest of the episode was nowhere near as significant as the above: the Benazir-Zakira conversations (Zakira seems more dedicated to fulfilling  their maqsad  than even Benazir!), Benazir coming to  ask Jalal to accompany her to the dargah across the Jamuna from Agra, the Mahaam-Ruqaiya love feast (the CVs have now completed their hatchet job on Begum Ruqaiya Sultan, though her fierce loyalty to hamare Jalal is as strong as ever), and finally, the important Hamida-Salima meeting, which paves the way for Salima to offer  to help Jodha, and thus for the duo  to end  up at the river bank  that cold winter night.
Miscellaneous: For all her aseem husn, Benazir does not look at all begum-like  even in full regalia.  I was reminded of the old saying that you cannot make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

 :*lol*: Kauwa chale hans ki chaal

Hoshiyaar seems to  still  suffer from a terminal case of foot in the mouth disease.
Why on earth would Jalal and Benazir cross the river  in a smallish boat with apparently no armed escort? Surely they would have a large enough boat to accommodate them all?
What lies ahead: So we have finally arrived, it seems , at the gateway to the amar prem kahani that we signed up  for. At least so I hope. If this too turns out to be a mrigtrishna, it would be  a very sad disappointment. But I do not think it will. Not now, not with all the build  up by Sheikh Salim Chisti.  
It will seem very odd for a while, to have Jalal and  Jodha being civil and sensible at the same time, for till now , it has been, alternately, the one or the other, but never both. But I am sure we will all soon get used to it, till the next falling out between our duo materializes. Not too soon, I hope!
In the immediate future, one thing is for sure. Jodha, this new Jodha, is not going to be cold or distant with Jalal for not having believed her about Benazir. She will be too limp with relief at his being safe now, and too  lighthearted at being freed at last from the crushing burden of the last few days,  for her to sulk. But it will be very interesting to see how their first post-Benazir conversation goes!
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PS: I see that there is a strong current of opinion in the forum that the shooting of Benazir  is a dream. I do  not think so, in good part because of the pointed connect between that and Jodha's 3 arrow display at Amer. If, however, it does turn out to be a dream, any alternative sequence will be far less satisfying. As for me, I have already had a lot of fun with the title and this post!
As for the fears that Jodha will not be able to prove that it was justified since Benazir was a vishkanya, Jalal can surely get his men to force Zakira to talk!

I think Salima and Jodha will find the source of Benazir's khurak as Sharifuddin suggested her to cut them short so that the VishKanya becomes restless and when Jalal saves her from those arrows of Jodha and pulls her huge body out of water, the doctors treating Benazir will find something fishy and informs Jalal about her being a VishKanya and Jalal will witness his mentos fresh dimag ki batti jalao moment after a long long time and arrests Zakira and interrogates her, Zakira fearing for her tiny praan will blurt out everything and Jalal finally arrests her and goes to confront VishKanya but she attacks Jalal and the dumbfounded Jalal is saved by Jodha and Salima risking their lives and Jalal orders to kill Benazir in the same way he punished Laakhi(Maham's Judwa Behen) and Jalal confessing his love for Jodha with Jodha saying yes to his proposal when Rahim reads that infamous letter of Jodha and seeing this Ruqaiya will go in coma and Maham plans another shadyantra after saving her from Jalal's wrath saying her nazar is kamzor as she is old now and as she could not read Devnagari properly hence she misunderstood what was written in that letter and had no intention to fool Jalal. In the meantime Jalal's nikammi army finds Shivani-Tejwant  and Shivani confesses everything to Jalal that Maham instigated her and she had all the her love-letters and Maham deliberately kept them in Jodha's chamber. Jalal's love for Jodha reaches to its epicness where sky is the limit. Maham in trouble again but this time she reminds him his doodh ka karz and Jalal forgives her again. Jalal asks Shivani to return to Amer and if Amerians are ready to accept her then he has no problems. Bapusa accepts Shivani and asks Jalal to give jaagir to Tejwant which annoys the utterly-butterly Hakim and when he returns to Kabul, his mother Mah-Chuchak bhadkaos him against Jalal and Hakim plans to rebel against him with the help of Uzbeks but before that Jalal frees Abul Maali as his sister Fakrunnisa begs him and as he has freed Sharifuddin he has no option but to free Maali also. Maali now a khula saand comes to Kaabul and kills Mah-Chuchak. Hakim is in distraught as Jalal did not send him any help when Maali was doing kaand in Kabul. Mirza Suleiman kills Maali and crushes his revolt, gives Hakim Kaabul back and gives his and Khurram Begum's daughter to Hakim in marriage. By this time Uzbeks are restless and they instigates Hakim more against Jalal. Hakim rebels but Jalal and Amer Family crushes the rebellion by crossing banks of Ganga overnight and killing most of the Uzbeks and Hakim has to flee to save his life and sulk in frustration. Amer Family is honoured and all the bitterness is gone now, Jodha gives birth to the twins but they could not survive longer  No  and Ruqaiya is saved herself from going to coma again as she finds the MUZ title mehfooz for quite some time. Another battle for Jalal, this time it is Chittodgadh and Jalal as usual wins the battle but somehow the soya hua Jallad in him wakes up and his army kills all the innocent people of Mewar forcing MP to flee into mountains. Years pass on, Shaikhu baba finally arrives and Jodha gets MUZ title with distraught Ruqaiya accepting Jodha as Jalal's soulmate as there is no Maham to help her in another saazish. Oopps I forgot about Maham and Adham, AK is obvously thrown from the terrace for killing Atgah Khan and dies, Maham screams nahiiiiiiiiiiiiiii and weeps and weeps for 40 days and finally dies. Note that this has happened before Hakim's revolt. The serial now ends with the soul talk of Jodha and Jalal in Sikandara, Agra saying 400 saal beet gaye par abhi bhi log hamari prem kahani ko yaad karte hai  Starry Love 

P. S : I know I have gone mad  :P  but this Benazir track has frustrated me so much that I could not come up with something better.  :lol!: 



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Post by JAISMINE on 2014-01-26, 13:38

Awesome take neha di Thumbsup ,finally this serial would speed up cheers ..if ur prediction comes true....but I'll b vry sad when it ends coz I won't b able 2 c Rajat 4rm monday 2 friday... :cry:  :cry:

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Post by sandhya on 2014-01-26, 15:23

Neha ....itni bhi mat soch yaar.  jalal ka dimaag ne kaam karna band kar diya to tumhaara double shift shuroo? 

No more doormat lallu jallu please. He is not a saint to forgive all sinners. He is a shahenshah. I am not here to watch the love story of a saint. No  No  No 

I agree with you.  Chishti baba's lollipop is to tempt the romantics only. There are another 100 episodes to go. Meanwhile I am expecting the case of The Sultanate vs Archer-e-khaas after bigben's exit .

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Post by neha on 2014-01-26, 15:25

JAISMINE wrote:Awesome take neha di Thumbsup ,finally this serial would speed up cheers ..if ur prediction comes true....but I'll b vry sad when it ends coz I won't b able 2 c Rajat 4rm monday 2 friday... :cry:  :cry:

Chill Maaro Jasmine Jaan.....Balaji will soon start a new historical show based on Asoka The Great with Rajat in lead role and Pakhi from tumhari pakhi as Rani Padmavati, that old Parvati of Mahadev as Rani Kaurawaki and Lavina as Rani Trishayraksha  cheers 

P.S : This is all my khayali pulao  :lol!:

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Post by neha on 2014-01-26, 15:31

sandhya wrote:Neha ....itni bhi mat soch yaar.  jalal ka dimaag ne kaam karna band kar diya to tumhaara double shift shuroo? 

No more doormat lallu jallu please. He is not a saint to forgive all sinners. He is a shahenshah. I am not here to watch the love story of a saint. No  No  No 

I agree with you.  Chishti baba's lollipop is to tempt the romantics only. There are another 100 episodes to go. Meanwhile I am expecting the case of The Sultanate vs Archer-e-khaas after bigben's exit .

 :*lol*:  I am finally on vacation for 2-3 days so my khali dimaag is running here and there, and looking at the current condition of my dear Jalal he will soon turn into Jai Baba JalluNath who is a saint of all saints and will never cross his begum Jodha's words  No No and thats why I want this show to end by April-May as they will butcher Jalal badly till then  affraid

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Post by sandhya on 2014-01-26, 15:33

neha wrote:
JAISMINE wrote:Awesome take neha di Thumbsup ,finally this serial would speed up cheers ..if ur prediction comes true....but I'll b vry sad when it ends coz I won't b able 2 c Rajat 4rm monday 2 friday... :cry:  :cry:

Chill Maaro Jasmine Jaan.....Balaji will soon start a new historical show based on Asoka The Great with Rajat in lead role and Pakhi from tumhari pakhi as Rani Padmavati, that old Parvati of Mahadev as Rani Kaurawaki and Lavina as Rani Trishayraksha  cheers 

P.S : This is all my khayali pulao  :lol!:
Ashoka ka bhi bura haal! Oh no! These kings became great only to be butchered by balaji! How sad!

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Post by Arpitha on 2014-01-26, 16:34

:lol!: Neha di...u killed mee........ ROFL  ROFL  ROFL cnt control my laughter..esp d last para ws Thumbsup  :*lol*:

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Post by Arpitha on 2014-01-26, 16:35

Shyamala Aunty.....superbbb post as always Thumbsup  Starry Love

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Post by sashashyam on 2014-01-26, 16:42

Neha, I am yet to digest your magnum opus of a comment, but for  now, just to inform this Gang of Three that Asoka the Great has already been comprehensively butchered by Shahrukh Khan, who made  him dance in the village square and canoodle with Kaurawaki underwater! I survived that film  at a special showing for PM Vajpayee and Home Minister Advani, where Shahrukh stood at the entrance to see off the guests and I had to lie thru my teeth when he asked each of us how we liked the film (I was then Joint Secretary in the Ministry of External Affairs in New Delhi, being an IFS officer). Nothing that Ekta can do to Asoka can top what Shahrukh made Santosh Sivan, otherwise an excellent director and cinematographer, do to the great emperor.Shyamala B.Cowsiksandhya wrote:
neha wrote:
JAISMINE wrote:Awesome take neha di Thumbsup ,finally this serial would speed up cheers ..if ur prediction comes true....but I'll b vry sad when it ends coz I won't b able 2 c Rajat 4rm monday 2 friday... :cry:  :cry:

Chill Maaro Jasmine Jaan.....Balaji will soon start a new historical show based on Asoka The Great with Rajat in lead role and Pakhi from tumhari pakhi as Rani Padmavati, that old Parvati of Mahadev as Rani Kaurawaki and Lavina as Rani Trishayraksha  cheers 

P.S : This is all my khayali pulao  :lol!:
Ashoka ka bhi bura haal! Oh no! These kings became great only to be butchered by balaji! How sad!

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Post by neha on 2014-01-26, 17:12

sashashyam wrote:
Neha, I am yet to digest your magnum opus of a comment, but for  now, just to inform this Gang of Three that Asoka the Great has already been comprehensively butchered by Shahrukh Khan, who made  him dance in the village square and canoodle with Kaurawaki underwater! I survived that film  at a special showing for PM Vajpayee and Home Minister Advani, where Shahrukh stood at the entrance to see off the guests and I had to lie thru my teeth when he asked each of us how we liked the film (I was then Joint Secretary in the Ministry of External Affairs in New Delhi, being an IFS officer). Nothing that Ekta can do to Asoka can top what Shahrukh made Santosh Sivan, otherwise an excellent director and cinematographer, do to the great emperor.Shyamala B.Cowsiksandhya wrote:
neha wrote:
JAISMINE wrote:Awesome take neha di Thumbsup ,finally this serial would speed up cheers ..if ur prediction comes true....but I'll b vry sad when it ends coz I won't b able 2 c Rajat 4rm monday 2 friday... :cry:  :cry:

Chill Maaro Jasmine Jaan.....Balaji will soon start a new historical show based on Asoka The Great with Rajat in lead role and Pakhi from tumhari pakhi as Rani Padmavati, that old Parvati of Mahadev as Rani Kaurawaki and Lavina as Rani Trishayraksha  cheers 

P.S : This is all my khayali pulao  :lol!:
Ashoka ka bhi bura haal! Oh no! These kings became great only to be butchered by balaji! How sad!

 ROFL  Aunty, you must have had hard time hiding your disappointment!!! I only remember the O Re Kanchi song on which I performed @ school  :P but I'm sure this great king n all his great consorts cannot survive Ekta's clutches. Once her third eye is opened she will not hesitate to butcher this mighty king one more time.  Twisted Evil

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Post by Reavathy on 2014-01-27, 01:29

Hi all… after more than 2 weeks of hectic work … but not missed JA or Dhwani…though JA is not interesting, our Dhwani is very interesting…. :) 



Shyamala mam… I really love your writing (article). Really nice.  :) Yet to see your June month writing about JA...

About Ahoka film and your sharing view about the film to SRK…I just imagined ... laughed like anything… I still remember one of my colleague, big fan of SRK said that SRK should have got the best actor award but they have given to Hrithik for Koyi Mil Gaya… I really laughed at that time also… seeing SRK as Ahoka …
Neha … that much irritated … but your predictions are very nice… Thumbsup 



Coming to the precap:- it is only my view point!!!

 It is not dream. Most of us can agree with that. But if Jodha shoot BEN and Kill her, how she can prove that she is Vishakanya.



Jaismine … I am sure that the blood colour will be red only not any other colour, because when she got hit with stones & slippers in the market, her blood was oozing on the face and it was RED in colour.



Zakira can easily escape. When they are not able to find out Sukanya & Tej, how can they find Zakira… She can hide even in Rabbit hole.
 


Nobody would like to listen to Shaifudeen and I don’t think that Abumali will reveal anything. So, how Jodha can prove?  She cannot kill anybody because she does not like violence … (though she said previously that she wants Jallu’s head!!!) So she cannot become Kali or Mahishasuramardhini!!!



My take is that, Jodha must have poisoned the 5 arrows and shot BEN. Ben, would have lost balance due to the unexpected shot…  but still alive… because it is poisonous Arrow… Now it is proved that she is “Poisonous Girl”.



Suppose, BEN is really dead, Jodha is the killer without proving BEN as Vishakanya??? she has to pack & return to Amer… then one day somehow (no breaking heads how) it is proved and Jalal asking Jodha to return, but she is not …. Goes on like this … another 100 episodes ????????



MY DOUBTS:- When BEN fell in the WELL, she would have taken some water and spit some. So the water will not become poisonous??? BEN did not think about it before falling in the Well??? It will become a very good evidence if somebody drinks that water & dies???



When MA wanted BEN to get married to a strong man, why she did not suggest AK. He likes her and can become waleed also. Is MA had her own doubts that Jodha will not tell lies?



Ruq… if she is in real love with Jalal, any such matters (vishakanya), whoever tells that, she should use her brain rather than her emotion (jealousy) and should investigate.



No spies in Mughal kingdom? When they can catch Abumali in the market, they can’t spy what is happening around Shensha!!!  Woh!!! As per Balaji TF Jalal is learning!!! So he will appoint efficient spies  after this incident.


Anyway hope this week will be interesting … cheers 

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Post by anurao66 on 2014-01-27, 07:59

Revathy, :) 

You have raised some valid points and some very pertinent questions. I am so glad you find this forum interesting.

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Post by sashashyam on 2014-01-27, 10:55

Thank you so much, Reavathy! My comments are next to yours, ad seriatim.Shyamala B.CowsikReavathy wrote:Hi all… after more than 2 weeks of hectic work … but not missed JA or Dhwani…though JA is not interesting, our Dhwani is very interesting…. :)

Shyamala mam… I really love your writing (article). Really nice.  :) Yet to see your June month writing about JA...

About Ahoka film and your sharing view about the film to SRK…I just imagined ... laughed like anything… I still remember one of my colleague, big fan of SRK said that SRK should have got the best actor award but they have given to Hrithik for Koyi Mil Gaya… I really laughed at that time also… seeing SRK as Ahoka … I am not surprised; that is what rabid fandom is like!
Neha … that much irritated … but your predictions are very nice… Thumbsup It was like an avalanche, and I am still digging myself out of it,but a splendidly satirical effort!

Coming to the precap:- it is only my view point!!!

 It is not dream. Most of us can agree with that. But if Jodha shoot BEN and Kill her, how she can prove that she is Vishakanya. Now, it has been proved by the precap that it was not a dream, and I am opening the Moet Chandon at 8:30 pm today. It is so rarely that I am able to second guess these CVs, who are allergic to logic. This time I  won because I loved that Durga dushtasamharini symbolism so much and went with my heart, not my head.

Jaismine … I am sure that the blood colour will be red only not any other colour, because when she got hit with stones & slippers in the market, her blood was oozing on the face and it was RED in colour. Good observation.

Zakira can easily escape. When they are not able to find out Sukanya & Tej, how can they find Zakira… She can hide even in Rabbit hole. No, my dear, it is  the  exact opposite. A dwarf is always noted everywhere, and she will be very easily traceable.  She can hardly live in a tree hole when she is expecting Benazir to join her at some predetermined place. If there is a trial, as is likely, she will be the key witness for the defence, I expect.

Nobody would like to listen to Shaifudeen and I don’t think that Abumali will reveal anything. So, how Jodha can prove?  She cannot kill anybody because she does not like violence … (though she said previously that she wants Jallu’s head!!!) So she cannot become Kali or Mahishasuramardhini!!! Not kill anybody when she has just pincushioned Benazir? She is a Rajput and she is used to killing in war.  She does not have to become Kali, she had already done that. Jodha does not have to prove anything; Jalal will do that for her.

My take is that, Jodha must have poisoned the 5 arrows and shot BEN. Ben, would have lost balance due to the unexpected shot…  but still alive… because it is poisonous Arrow… Now it is proved that she is “Poisonous Girl”. Where would she have got the poison from at such short notice? She is not Mahaam Anga with a full poison cupboard! It is a very intriguing idea, however.

Suppose, BEN is really dead, Jodha is the killer without proving BEN as Vishakanya??? she has to pack & return to Amer… then one day somehow (no breaking heads how) it is proved and Jalal asking Jodha to return, but she is not …. Goes on like this … another 100 episodes ???????? No, no. It will not be any such thing. If Jodha was held guilty of murder, the punishment will not be a slap on the wrist like being sent off to Amer (where she will not get admission, being now a parityakta!)

MY DOUBTS:- When BEN fell in the WELL, she would have taken some water and spit some. So the water will not become poisonous??? BEN did not think about it before falling in the Well??? It will become a very good evidence if somebody drinks that water & dies??? Very clever idea, but who is going to that well to check if someone has since died from drinking that water? Moreover, the excessive dilution might  have  weakened the poison's effectiveness. Someone else here had suggested that the fish in the river might have died from biting Ben, and the problem with that would have been the same,plus it was night, and Jalal would not have been able to see even dead fish around? By morning, as the body would have been retrieved, there would be no fresh dead fish and the former ones would have been swept away down the river.

When MA wanted BEN to get married to a strong man, why she did not suggest AK. He likes her and can become waleed also. Is MA had her own doubts that Jodha will not tell lies? No, she intends Adham for higher things and would hardly want a kaneez to be her second daughter in  law?

Ruq… if she is in real love with Jalal, any such matters (vishakanya), whoever tells that, she should use her brain rather than her emotion (jealousy) and should investigate. She is VERY protective of hamara Jalal and fiercely loyal to him and to the Mughal sultanate, but she is by now blinded by her jealousy of  Jodha. The shade of the real Ruqaiya Sultan is sure to rise from her grave and smite the CVs one fine day for having so demeaned her character.

No spies in Mughal kingdom? When they can catch Abumali in the market, they can’t spy what is happening around Shensha!!!  Woh!!! As per Balaji TF Jalal is learning!!! So he will appoint efficient spies  after this incident.
Anyway hope this week will be interesting … cheers  It will.

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