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Post by sashashyam on 2014-06-09, 16:53

Folks, 


Aha!! I can practically see you scratching your heads and wondering if I have lost it. But no, I am still reasonably sane. hpee 

It is just that, as is often my wont, I am beginning with the oldest part, the start of the Monday episode, where the oaken Motibai, in her nasal singsong, made an absolutely startling revelation. What was even more startling was that, as far as I could make out, no one here noticed it or commented on it. It is thus time to remedy this state of affairs!
Jodha Akbar 253: The Missing Missives: What precisely does Motibai say to Jodha on Monday at 8:02 pm? She says,   when informed  by Jodha  that the Shahehshah cannot read or write, Aur aap itne mahinon se unhe patra par patra likhti rahin.. Ab samajh me aaya ki Shahenshah se manmutao door karne ke saare prayatna kyon nishphal huye aapke!

Good Lord! So Jodha Begum had, for months  on end (a slightly elastic interpretation of the time by Motibai, since at the most 4 weeks would have gone by between Jodha’s leaving Agra,  with Kanha in tow, and her decision to go back to Agra)  actually been writing patra pe patra to her hubby and no one, least of all us, knew anything about this!

Whence The Mystery of the Missing Missives. It needs serious research, and pressing queries directed at the CVs, to get them to disgorge the texts of these Jodha Letters, which are bound to be of inestimable value to serious researchers of the period.  hpee 

Not to speak of giving the Jodha-philes fresh ammunition to take potshots at the foolishly trusting Jalal for having Mahaam read all these patra to him and distort them beyond recognition in the process. Plus giving us fairminded analysts a much more positive opinion of Jodha Begum,  ie Jodha 1, hitherto shownt o us  as obstinate beyond belief, unfeeling and harsh to Jalal, and devoid of both judgment and fair-mindedness. While all the while she was sending him pleading, explanatory letters (at least so I presume),  one after the other in a fine, never say die spirit! hpee 

Other titbits: The playful Jodha-Jalal scene in the bedroom was the most natural and appealing one between them so far.


It was charmingly light-hearted, and at last there was what I had been asking for, some content in their conversation other than the dil, haivaan, insaan, and Radha-Krishna, and even if her hunars came up, there was some mention of Jalal's hunars as well!! And for a change,  both the actors were  good, which too was welcome.

I was thus  very pleased with it, and even more so when Jalal became serious as soon as Jodha mentioned Chand Begum. He sat up, and actually got that portrait idea on his own. Hallelujah!


Chand Begum: Coming to Tabassum’s chef d’oeuvre of Chand Begum’s likeness, Lashy was complaining that it showed her looking cross-eyed, whereas she was not. But Lashykanna, it also made her look  much better than she was in reality, both in the flashbacks and in the present! hpee 

In fact, after looking at her, I realised that Humayun (the oft repeated Jannat Aashiyani) was not unlucky only in war and siyasat. He seems to have had dismal luck with his khaas begums as well. There was Hamida the giraffe, with flat face and a single, preachy expression. I am sure he fell down the  library stairs trying  get away from one of her uplifting moral bhashans!  hpee

Now this Chand Begum, with a face like the backside of a bus. How COULD a Shahenshah pick such an ugly female to be his Begum?


And then what sort of addled brains did he have, willing his takht to a baby girl,  given the Razia Sultan  fiasco that he must have known about? How did he think the Mughal nobles would accept a woman on the throne, and that too this Chand Begum's daughter?

No wonder Shehnaaz looks as scatty and plain as she does. But at least she is better looking than her real Ammijaan.

Now look at Jalal's luck! Not only does he become Akbar, but he has 3 very goodlooking Khaas Begums: Ruqaiya is elegant and fine-boned and looks very pretty when she is not scheming or gloating, Jodha  is beautiful, and even Salima is statuesquely handsome!


No wonder they say that Lady Luck is a capricious jade, and  favours  goodlooking men!


Jodha Akbar 254: The Return of the Negligee: In that diabetes-inducing scene around the palna, what stood out was Jodha’s rich, elegant negligee. It had made  a return for the first time after the Night  of the Dhakka, and was much better than the eau de nil satin one she wore that time. 


The other plus point was that Jodha/Paridhi looks vastly prettier without all her Christmas tree gewgaws and her stiff daily attire, not  to speak of the cartwheel. She looked more beautiful on the Dhakka night, almost, for one fleeting instant,  like Madhubala,  but this too was a great improvement on the daily display. 


Before the treacly stuff about the palna was poured over us, I loved the mischievous Jalal, who seemed to have regained some of his earlier teasing cockiness. Not that it will last.


No titbits, for  I do not remember anything else worth commenting on.

Jodha Akbar 255: D’Artaganan reborn! The only thing that I have really retained from the Wednesday episode, apart from the easy, old shoe affection and familiarity between Jalal and Ruqaiya (after the hukkah yelling bout to which Rajat gave his 101%) was the shamsheerbaazi between Jalal and Adham.

Rajat’s Jalal was fabulous in the swordfight scene, the best we have been shown after the one on his flight out of Amer lugging along the crippled Abdul (lost to us, alas, while this wooden Motibai seems to thrive!). 

Rajat fought like a whirling dervish, and despite his stocky build, he was as light as a feather in his jumps, twists and those incredibly agile tumbles (which looked like something out of DID L’il Masters!). It was like watching D’Artganan in the best of the Three Musketeers films, swift, savage and potentially lethal, and yet as lithe and graceful as a ballet dancer.


But what I loved  was his  ending exchange with Adham: that was Akbar at his wisest and most perceptive looking out of Jalal's eyes. And Jalal’s gaze was as  keen and mesmerising as that of an eagle. No wonder, for the eagle is also an emperor, of the skies!

Jodha Akbar 256: Of an ataliq and an aulaad:There was a good bit of overt romance between Jalal and Jodha, before  and in the mandir. It was at times charming, as when Jalal stops Jodha from speaking (he should do it more often!) and asks her  why she does not share her desires and her problems with him. And at times contrived, with the determined do-gooding of the by now utterly boring Salima Begum.

But what stood out for me was the very gentle and moving scene between Jalal and Atgah Khan.


One could sense Jalal reliving the trauma of the loss of his Khan Baba, and the  shadows of the future  seemed to be already clouding his present. When fate  finally deals him that  blow, the shock and the trauma will both be very hard for him to bear.

But the real highlight of the scene was the collage of Jijianga’s shifting expressions, each a speaking vignette. There was worry and concern at the prospect of Atgah Khan earning Adham Khan’s and Mahaam Anga’s ire by revealing the depredations committed on the imperial treasury under Adham Khan’s watch in Malwa.  Then a slight shift to gratitude at the open affection shown by Jalal to his ataliq. Finally, melting tenderness  and unsullied joy as she watches them embrace each other.

The mandir scenes between Jalal and Jodha, cloyingly sweet, were noteworthy only for the pandit displaying a flash of prescience when he talks of both jis bachche ke kalyan ke liye aap pooja karne aaye hain,  and the other, who is growing in Jodha’s womb and who should become duniya ka shreshtatam Shahenshah  (quite a tall order for Salim/Jahangir, but never mind!) . 


It remains to be seen if Salim is to be fast forwarded by Ekta & Co.,  or whether he will appear in the proper chronological order, after the other lost babies and the attendant shared sorrows.


Jodha Akbar 257: And then there were none!  Now, this subtitle could do both for the quartet of Mughal soldiers escorting Jalal and  Jodha to the orphanage, as also for Adham’s  band of renegades.


I could not believe the way in which the first lot walked on, unseeing, unknowing and unconcerned, as they were picked off one by one by the latter lot. It was an incredible display of the rankest ineptitude and criminal negligence. When there was only one left, he did not even sense the absence of the other three around him, and when his throat was summarily cut, all I could feel was that this would have happened to him in any case, if not today, then tomorrow!

Equally odd was the way in which Jalal, a shatir sipahi-cum-Shahenshah, who should have been always on high alert, does not sense the  absence of the footsteps of the quartet behind. It is clear that love has not only made him blind but deaf as well!   hpee 


It is to be hoped that  Jalal was merely joking about taking Jodha Begum with him on his safars,  for if he did, he would be so busy making cow’s eyes at her that he would be  a sitting duck for any  would be assassin!

Shatiron ke ustad; Adham Khan: Now for Adham Khan, who is clearly not over-burdened with grey matter. Still, he not only manages to

-find out that Jalal and Jodha will be  going from the Ambe Maa mandir to one particular orphanage ( is there perhaps some sort of Agra Palace Daily Bulletin about the Shahenshah’s daily schedule, put upon on a notice board in the main palace quadrangle? hpee ),

- guess that Jalal, given his reckless temperament, would abandon practically all of his guard at the mandir (if the whole lot had come along, not even  their A grade incompetence would have enabled Adham’s cohorts to isolate the Shahenshah and his begum!),

- also guess the exact pagdandi (small footpath) that they would take from the mandir to the orphanage, and finally,


-ensure that Jalal and Jodha did not deviate in the slightest from the  path  in which that mantrap and the net has been fixed well in advance. This last was clearly the toughest hurdle of all, but our Adham passed this test with flying colours! hpee 

Incredible, all in all!  Mahaam would clearly have been proud of her progeny.

Lastly, after the last such expedition – the attack on Todar Mal’s house by the pseudo-bandits in Adham’s pay- and now again the failed attack on Jalal and Jodha, resulted in 100% casualties, one can be sure that Adham’s mercenaries will now demand not only a hefty pay hike but also a special life insurance scheme.  hpee 

The idiocy of the lone survivor, who drags himself all  the way to Adham, when any fool could have guessed  what would happen to bim at Adham’s hands, proved that they all – the Mughal quartet and the dozen or so henchmen of Adham's – come from the same stock! hpee



Jalal: While Jalal’s fatuous threats and questions to the goons, dangling as he was in the net, sounded like  a variation on Garam Dharam’s standard  Kutte, kamine, main tera khoon pijaunga!,  he was in top form otherwise.


There was  the saucy  cockiness with which he looks up at Jodha after having despatched the duo left to guard them. The casual, almost careless ease with which he flings the borrowed shamsheer  up to cut thru the rope  holding the net. 


The untrammelled courage and the unhesitating determination, plus the consciousness of what he owes to his status as the Shahenshah, with which he sallies forth into combat unarmed, brushing aside Jodha’s protests. Humara tareeka kuch alag hai..Bina unhe sazaa diye chale gaye to hum kaise Shahenshah?


The buccaneering gaiety and the sheer joy of combat that pervades his whole being as he whirls, kicks and slashes in the heat of combat with a dozen adversaries,  all out for his blood. The cheeky sally with which he dismisses Jodha’s anxious plea for caution: Hamein aap par itna to yakeen hai!, and then later proposes their sharing the last two one for each.

Then the total reversion of mood to the  gentle tenderness with which he spreads the lep on Jodha’s wound, and blows on it.


OTT folly: Like a kala tikka  to ward off any evil eye from this marvellous Jalal, there was the  embarrassingly  over the top praise that he lavished on Jodha Begum, not just in private, but also in front of the whole Agra palace ménage, and then, in the precap, of  Ruqaiya.


It  is one thing for Jalal  to praise Jodha for her courage, determination, and her fencing skills (clearly  declared to be top notch by  an imperial  farman; but more of that later! hpee ), but quite another for him to say that it was only because of her that he had survived, and that if she had been his enemy, he would have been exterminated in short order. And this is supposed to be one of the greatest warriors of his time, who never suffered a single military defeat during the whole of his long reign?  What did he do before Jodha Begum appeared on the scene?


It  was all  unbelievably foolish. After Jalal declared to Hamida Banu, Jodha Begum hamare saath thin.. Unke rahmokaram se hum sahi salamat hain..  there was nothing more to be said.


If I had been Ruqaiya, I would  have clouted him one good and proper as he was gushing to her about Jodha Begum being the equal of a poori fauj and how if he had been her enemy, he would have been disposed of pronto. It was embarassing, this outpouring of  excessive and unbecoming admiration, without the least idea of how the listener would react to it. But then that is a man all over! hpee 

Jodha: the postives: Let me first dispose of what I liked about Jodha on Friday.


Krishi and a whole lot of others are  going to be cheesed off with me about this, alas!  But the fact is that  I thought that comment of Jodha's, "Aap sabse aavashyak baath sabse anth mein kyon batate hain?" was the best part of the hanging in the net segment. It was so typically wifely nagging,  of the kind Jalal is used to from Ruqaiya, and I loved it.

See, she has said far worse things to his face, and nasty things too, in the ghrina phase, so there is no point carping about anachronistic behaviour in a 16th century queen. No queen in that period, Mughal or Rajput, could or would have  behaved as Jodha used to behave. So, this comment  was hardly worth criticizing as  showing lack of respect!


Plus Jodha  cannot see past Jalal, as she is on the side of the net opposite the henchmen, and so she can be cut some slack for not noticing that they are still there, and that any attempt by Jalal to  free them before the goons leave woud be disastrous.

I also liked the typically feminine sense of practicality with which she exclaims  in alarm to Jalal "Aap kahan jaa rahe hain? Hamein in logon se bachna hai!". But when she grasps the fact that Jalal cannot be stopped from taking on the whole lot, she adjusts to the inevitable, stops cribbing,  and takes a firm grip on the borrowed shamsheer.  It was a very Kajri-like readiness to stand at his side in any and all circumstances, and you all know how much I loved Kajri!!


Lep aur lep:  I could not fathom how Jodha managed to not just locate the [precise  jadi booti she wanted  in the darkness, without any source of light, but then also make an instant  pasty lep of the leaves  she had gathered. Let us put that down to a  karishma!


This  said, the very  predictable lep aur lep scene was unexpectedly charming, right from Jodha’s exasperated Aap bolte rahenge to hamare dhyan bhatak jayega ( where to,  Jodha Begum? hpee ).

There was the anxious attention of a professional medicine woman with which she tends to his wounds, the seriousness finally dispelled by a relieved smile :  task accomplished! It was  a far cry from her usually mechanical efforts in similar situations in the  past.

Then, as Jalal, in his turn,  applies the lep to her wound and blows gently on it, there is, on Jodha’s face and in her eyes, a pleased tenderness,a  gentle affection, and a sense of belonging  that were  surprisingly convincing.

The negatives:
I only wish they had had a good fencing master to train Jodha, for she was far from convincing as a duellist. Everything was wrong. Her body stances were too rigid and there was none of  a good swordsman’s suppleness of arm and wrist; her arms were held  out  stiffly like sticks.  Her grunting as she stabbed the last but one thug was more like what one would expect from a karate practitioner than  from a medieval swordswoman.


No one but a besotted spouse could have described her as equivalent to  a poori fauj. Unless it was  the kind of fauj that had accompanied them to the orphanage! hpee 

The sole neat and convincing point about  the Jodha-as-a  kamaal ke sipahi segment was that her cartwheel of a nose ring had got detached and was hanging down. As a result, she looked much better. By the time they got   back to the palace, it was, unfortunately, back in place.  hpee


Question of the week: When Jalal slices through the holding rope with the shamsheer, Jodha should have come down as she was. So, even if Jalal was able to catch her neatly in his arms, she  should still have been swathed in the net. But she is shown out of the net, romantically nestled in Jalal’s hold. How come?

Mahaam: As Jalal was indirectly snubbing her, what was interesting was the triptych of changing expressions on her face, and on those of Hamida Banu and Jodha. First, mainly on Hamida’s part,  a kind of dawning hope of a sort of half-reconciliation or at least a silent acceptance from Jalal. Then, after he has finished speaking,  shame and suppressed anger on Mahaam’s face, regret on Hamida’s,  and a curious mixture of satisfaction and  understanding on Jodha’s. 

Shehnaaz: I could not have imagined that we would be stuck with this super-irritating and  very scatty female, mouthing dire threats against Jalal and his loved ones that are so stupid that she makes one long for Benazir and her creepy snakes! Then, I had felt that she was the pits, but with this Shehnaaz all set to haunt us for the next 2/3 months, I begin to see Benazir’s plus points!  hpee 

I am now looking forward eagerly to the arrival on the scene of Mirza Hakim’s Mommy dearest, especially as she is apparently going to be played by the very competent Mita Vasisht. I have seen Mita Vasisht in arthouse films -  she is of the Smita Patil school in both looks and acting. She is a very strong performer, and she does not lapse into hamming the way Ashwini tends to do. So she will at least be a  welcome relief!

Shyamala B.Cowsik


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Re: Jodha Akbar 253-257: The Mystery of the Missing Missives et al

Post by shiningways2407 on 2014-06-09, 17:25

Nice post Aunty!!
For motibai's part,u made
gud observation.
As far as I m concerned,
I did ignore it.
 After there so called,
confession n consummation
the only scen which
for me looked like hus-wife
was one where jalal
shares his childhood memory.
Fortunately,that scene was 
not one sided effort.  
 Ur comparison b/w CB painting 
n real one is hillarious.
Jalal n adham sword fine
was a treat for sure.
Loved it simply. 
 I m eagerly waiting for
Jalal's reaction after Atga's death.
N ya jijianga didnt want atga to
reveal Adham's matter.
 I simply don t understand
what happened to Jalal's
khan baba's talim abt which
he talked during seperation 
track,during mali's attack.
Where were his listening 
ability??
 Again Aunty ur descriptions
abt Adham r hillarious.
My gudness he knew that
at the end only
one of his man will survive.

No comments regarding'' Rehmokaram''
dialogue.
 N abt jodha's positive part
which u mentioned,
I agree it was wifely but
not in terms of 16th century 
n that also of mughal era which
had its own tehzeeeb. For this 
part I will hold cvs responsible.
I know she had taunted jalal
in a much humilating way 
but gradually jodha's character
need to show respect for
husband as well.

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Re: Jodha Akbar 253-257: The Mystery of the Missing Missives et al

Post by divyavm on 2014-06-09, 17:27

Aunty, a big hug to you for giving me such a good laugh and brilliant view of the past week.

As you know I am having issues with Dhwani on my ipad, so typing briefly from my phone.

I liked one more scene this week- the one between Jalal and Atgah as it showed Jalal's connect for him.

Going to Friday's episode, I enjoyed it quite a bit but I am sore about one thing- Jodha was not a pinch apologetic on the tiger fiasco when Jalal brought it up. As if they are equals, she responds- then I wanted to save innocent animals, now I was saving you. As if, that is any comparison!

Great post as always Aunty!

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Post by aashyagh on 2014-06-09, 17:27

Shyamala lovely as usual.  Even though Humayun was unlucky in all aspects including his begums, Jalal was lucky in all aspects including his begums good looks, but when it came to his luck with these women, I don't think he was happy either (in the show ofcourse hpee )

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Post by adianasr on 2014-06-09, 17:35

Shyamala, the kala tikka of the friday epi was all thanks to the CVs while the Jalal who gave us such joy was all RT!!!! Now that is called improvising with the script and cutting the raw diamond into the perfect stone!!!!!

And yes even I am looking forward to the coming of Mita Vasisht - Together she and RT are capable of giving us the best possible on the small screen - these two would be a treat to watch!!!!!

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Post by munnirony on 2014-06-09, 17:52

2 scenes stood out for me.1st is the jalal adham sword fight scene nd 2nd jalal atgha scene. But my question why didn't atgha informed jalal about adham before?  Even HB didn't said anything nd also not about maham's surang visit. Jodha also didn't informed jalal about adham's misbehavior with shehnaaz. It was jodha who lectured jalal during tasneem case. But she commited the same mistake. Anyways rest was all about jodha's mahanta nd her "rehmokaram". I wonder how did jalal survived till jajo marriage?

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Post by sashashyam on 2014-06-09, 17:56


 

Thank you, Divya darling,and I am glad you enjoyed it.

As for the Atgah-Jalal scene, you have missed my detailed take on it in The ataliq and the aulaad. Do go back and see it. I loved it as much as you did.

As for Jodha not being the least bit apologetic about the narnaal disaster, that is her all over, convinced that she can do no wrong. But as for her behaving like the Shahenshah'a equal, that is all Jalal's doing. If he gushes over her non-stop and in such  an OTT fashion, what else can we expect?

Shyamala Aunty


divyavmAunty, a big hug to you for giving me such a good laugh and brilliant view of the past week.

As you know I am having issues with Dhwani on my ipad, so typing briefly from my phone.

I liked one more scene this week- the one between Jalal and Atgah as it showed Jalal's connect for him.

Going to Friday's episode, I enjoyed it quite a bit but I am sore about one thing- Jodha was not a pinch apologetic on the tiger fiasco when Jalal brought it up. As if they are equals, she responds- then I wanted to save innocent animals, now I was saving you. As if, that is any comparison!

Great post as always Aunty!

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Post by sandhya on 2014-06-09, 18:01

Sorry....double post.


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Post by mandygi on 2014-06-09, 20:44

shyamala, will post my comment later, all rajat/jalal lovers please comment on the new TB article his name is tagged..will be back!

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Dearest Aunty,

Post by sunshin-sun on 2014-06-09, 21:12

very very thank u for sending pm to me as i loved to , i always love to read ur classic post as usual long hug ..after reading i just dont know wat to say  hpee 

i m skipping most of the epi, the  exception is the fridays epi n i welcomed it(its very much better than ruaiyah fake pregnancy ,she is getting to my nerves Evil or Very Mad )...jalal is going over board or cvs  arent getting good dialogues to give him ... Bang

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Post by sandhya on 2014-06-09, 21:13

Aunty

Thanks for the fun-filled post. A much needed one.

As for the missing missives, its mention was as much out of place as the new Moti. When could Jodha have sent letter after letter? After the dhakka? But she was in a 'MH aapse achche hain mood' then.  During the Sujamal MU? But she was intent on hiding the whole thing from him then. 

Btw how nice indeed it would have been if she had tried to make amends, clear misunderstandings and we had been aware of it!

While PS looked angelic in the dhakka episode in the green negligee, she looked over-dressed, esp her wig even without her Christmas tree accessories in the new night-gown.

And yes, Rajat does manage to squeeze through the spirit and greatness and wisdom of Akbar even in little gaps between the Jodha Chaalisa that he is forced to sing everytime.

The much praised 'joint fight' reminded me of the Parokh Dandia Fight. PS simply couldn't handle action sequences. RT rules at fencing, yet PS didn't match even AK. When a script is written glorifying the fencing abilities of a character, some justice has to be done.  It was like CB being praised for her beauty.

Aunty, I also share my sympathies for Humayun (Jannat Aashiyaani) with you . ROFL  ROFL  ROFL 

But what put me off completely was the comment by Jo that indicated that she was totally justified in pulling out the gunpowder. Not an iota of guilt. What is this girl made up of!

How nice it would have been had she admitted to her short-sightedness there and wrt to many things about him earlier, and her clarity of feelings wrt him now! Is it asking too much out of Ms.EverPerfect.

Had there been subtle and warm and limited praises of her bravery in difficult situations, the scene would have been perfect (despite the AK plans loop-holes). Instead the 'rehmokaram' and 'she can replace my fauj' dialogues spoilt the beauty of the scene. It was like too much salt that spoils the soup. Btw as our friends said, if she was indeed a one-woman army, why didn't she fight alongside Suryabhaan and her brothers and drive away the incompetent Mughal Fauj?

The one scene that I liked the whole of last week was Jalal's discussing his childhood teachers with Jo that looked natural and sounded warm and pleasing.So was the namaz scene today. The earnestness in Jo's voice as she said that she wished to learn was touching and brought out another shower of praises (unsurprisingly) from Jalal. (But Jalal has never been praised for his joining her in prayers or wishing to learn her practices.............his goodness is always taken for granted )

So next we have the pardafaash of Ruqs lies. Jalal will soon cut ties with her.  That is the intent of the whole track - to clear the route for Jodha to be the one and only one and Jalal to be the ek-patni vrat.

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Post by Shweta on 2014-06-09, 21:33

Great post Aunty hpee 

Loved your take on Humayun , poor fellow I wonder how on earth he tolerated HB ROFL , CVs came with the concept of Humayun naming his baby girl as a future heir of Takht  Shocked , if we go by history then it should have been his oldest daughter Aqiqa Sultan (who later lost in the battle) and even Gunwar Bibi was pregnant with Bakshi Banu, Ekta is hell bent on creating her own version of history  hppy
Rajat/Jalal pissed me off with that Jodha begum ke rehem aur karam dialogue ! I literally wanted to punch Jalal in his face Embarassed  and Jodha was funny during the sword fight scene, the actress cant match with Rajat but still it was not as bad as her typical dialogue delivery.
 

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Post by Alakh on 2014-06-09, 21:55

long hug

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Post by Greeshma014 on 2014-06-09, 21:58

hpee Aunty, nice take.. hpee ..i'l post my detailed comment later..

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Post by Greeshma014 on 2014-06-09, 22:01

@sandhya Dear ,check ur inbox when u get time..

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Post by pollyanna on 2014-06-09, 22:20

Aunty  long hug 

I saw the marathon repeat on Saturday and then this post..... hppy  hppy 

Loved every bit of it......had it not been ur posts and then the comments here by members...I wudnt have bothered to watch JA......

I am sorry...am unable to comment in all posts as I read them on smart phone and feel lazy to type thru mobile....

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Post by mandygi on 2014-06-10, 04:26

lovely post shyamala the dearest! agree with all the points and i too am waiting for mita's entry..i have seen few of her films and you are right she reminds me of samita patil..and she is a very strong performer..rajat will have a tough competition but i know our sher will come out with flying colors! i have a strong feeling that rajat will gel well with mita..he likes to be around good and experienced actors!

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Post by mandygi on 2014-06-10, 04:32

hi guys, i am just wondering if our rajat's jalal will be able to survive in the mud created by ekta's natkiye rupantar where all the hunars and positivities will be in jodha's kitty..i hope the new phase will be between mahachuchak and akbar..i want to see the two actors par excellence in front of each other rather then paridhi's jodha facing mac with her monotone dialogue delivery!

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Post by mandygi on 2014-06-10, 05:31

shyamala, your tipni on that water splash scene and the namaz scene from monday's episode..as adi mentioned earlier that it is jalal who practiced jodha's religion first and then jodha followed him..now who is making who insaan as per the tag line...
 hppy

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Post by smile.sara on 2014-06-10, 06:29

hi all and hi aunty ..
namaz scene was ok..it will be nice if CV will give some information abt namaz to jalal explaining her.... but they didn't give a single dialogue about namaz ...
for eg ...while offering namaz one cant see here and there  Rolling Eyes 

today I watch epi after 2 weeks just for water splash and last days of extravagant ruqlal chemistry...
how natural they look with each other.... how ease feels in rajat action while turning holding lavina is just awesome.... Heart 
 look at new promo .... cant say ...on this side hug of 2 m distance I should laugh zipped  or actually ROFL hppy  hppy

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Post by mandygi on 2014-06-10, 06:58

i too noticed the ease that rajat feels when around lavi..and in the promo whats up with that side hug and 2m distance Bang 
smile.sara wrote:hi all and hi aunty ..
namaz scene was ok..it will be nice if CV will give some information abt namaz to jalal explaining her.... but they didn't give a single dialogue about namaz ...
for eg ...while offering namaz one cant see here and there  Rolling Eyes 

today I watch epi after 2 weeks just for water splash and last days of extravagant ruqlal chemistry...
how natural they look with each other.... how ease feels in rajat action while turning holding lavina is just awesome.... Heart 
 look at new promo .... cant say ...on this side hug of 2 m distance I should laugh zipped  or actually ROFL hppy  hppy

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Post by munnirony on 2014-06-10, 09:15

U know guys I was watching doli armaano ki where the heroine gave the hero a proper cheek kiss. Nd the actress neha marda is also married.

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Post by Greeshma014 on 2014-06-10, 09:35

munnirony wrote:U know guys I was watching doli armaano ki where the heroine gave the hero a proper cheek kiss. Nd the actress neha marda is also married.

i too watched dat scene..i love neha. Even sanjetha sheik, she is also married..she is a true professional..she doesn't hesitate to do romantic scenes or intimate scenes with her co-star..

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Post by mandygi on 2014-06-10, 09:42

i think success has gone to her head nothing else or her conservative family must have put pressure on her that is why she wanted to quit but do not know why ekta held her back, she could have replaced her and any good looking girl could have played the role!

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Post by Greeshma014 on 2014-06-10, 09:53

well written post Aunty..i'm in love with ur humour sense..About moti bai..what to say..she is the one who always comes with startling revelations..she doesn't knw what she saying/doing..she is the one who gave her precious idea to Jodha to hide abt meeting with suja from jalal..After somedays, she confessed to jalal dat, she forced to hide becoz of her so called vachan..she also told to jo dat,after her diparture from Agra,shehensha didn't even look at any other begam and stayed in her hojra only..but jalal told jo dat , he went to Ruk becoz he was upset..Moti is like dat only..nothing new..she is not in her sense..
jo-jalal bedroom scene was gud..atleast there was sum content in their conversation,not dat usual blah, blah..Aunty, I loved sword fight only jalal part..and abt jo, u said it all..if jalal fought with all soldiers, and jo treating his wounds, it would b far better dan what dey shown..As a whole, d scene was a big disapoinment for me..Agtah-jalal scene was heart touching..i'l miss him..apart fr dis, lep wala love, hunar wala love,child wala love, bhashan wala love, everything is same...

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