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Jodha Akbar 297-301: The Atifa Code

Post by sashashyam on 2014-08-08, 17:13

Folks,

Yes, I know, I know! It is a riff on The Da Vinci Code,  but you will agree that it is a valid riff, for Ms. Preity Zinta lite,  aka Atifa, is as much of a puzzle as the  fiendishly difficult coded message in Dan Brown’s mega best seller. 

As is the reaction she produces in our mahanayak, Shahenshah Jalaluddin Muhammad Akbar. What is it that he now feels for her, and what does that say about him, as a lover, as a husband,  and as  a human being? And how far will he be prepared to take it?  I am stopping, as of now, with the Wednesday episode 301, as that was the watershed   in the Jodha-Jalal-Atifa triangle; what followed last night, and what is to come, was and will be  only the working out of the consequences  of this turning point.

Before I start, one huge round of applause from me, in which I am sure all of you will join in,  to Rajat's Jalal. This was a complex, haunted, bewildered, grim and  obsessed take on the character, which at places gave one goose pimples. Right and wrong, folly and recklessness, do not enter into this assessment of what was a superb, layered, and utterly convincing performance. Take a bow, Rajat!


Beinteha deewaangee: Let us start, as I often do, near the end of  this time frame, the end of Episode 301. Jalal lands up at Atifa’s rooms when her husband is still there, though asleep. He comes thru the door curtains that she is closing, and as he stands before her, he looks like a man under an irresistible  spell.  Sombre, disturbed, confused, but still impelled by a force he can neither understand nor resist. Hum nahin jaante kyon..Hamare dil ne kaha ki tumse milna chahiye au hum aa gaye..

When she steers him outside and shushes him, the tormenting  restlessness that pervades his whole being, the  pull of emotions he cannot suppress, all comes out in a torrent… Hum to chup ho jayenge.. Lekin hamare dil mein jo shor macha hua hai, uska kya?  Jo awaaz hamare zehen mein goonj rahi hai, usak kya? Jo ehsaas hum mehsoos kar rahe hain, uska kya? Hum tum se aur door nahin rah sakte, Atifa.

As  he asks her whether a person has no right to fall  in love a second time in  his life, the face and voice are alike desperate, like a man  in extremis,  seeking reassurance that what he cannot now help doing – Humare dil aur dimaag ke beech ek jung si chid gayi hai.. –   might, as he tells Atgah earlier, be wrong, but is understandable.  Jab humein mohabbat hui to humein laga ki hum is ehsaas ko dobara kabhi mehsoos nahin karenge, par ab humeing lagta hai ki humein phir se mohabbat ho gayi hai..

As he looks into her eyes, that are more frightened than glad, his own are dark and sombre. This is not  a man glad to be in love again, it is a man trapped in  an emotional labyrinth that will not let him go. When he talks of the rishta  that is there between them now, when he tells her how bechain he feels when she is not near him,  and how much of sukoon  floods thru him when she is close, there is a pleading note  in the deep voice. But the pleading is not with her, but with himself. Jalaluddin Muhammad aur  Shahenshah   ke beech jung chid gayi hai.

As a deliberate counterpoint to Jodha seeking to reassure herself that in a day or two, when the Shahehshah’s anger would have cooled, sab kuch pehle jaise, saamaanya ho jayega, Jalal confesses to Atifa Sab kuch badal gaya hai, Atifa. Kuch bhi  pehle  jaise nahin raha..

Then comes the single most  telling point in all these 5 epsiodes.  Aaj hamara Jodha Begum ke saath jhagda hua. Pehle, jab bhi wo udaas hoti thin, unhein dekh kar humein dukh hota tha.Lekin aaj humne wo ehsaas mehsoos nahin kiya..Kitni mohabbat karte the hum Jodha Begum se!

 And then, finally, responding to her predictable question:  Ab nahin karte? ,  the  clincher. Hum nahin jaante..Humare aur Jodha Begum ke beech pehle bhi bahut behas huyi hai, par aaj humne jo mehsoos kiya, wo aaj se pehle kabhi nahin kiya..Lagta hai ki Jodha Begum ke liye hamari mohabbat guzare pal ki baat ho gayi hai..And then Atifa’s slow smile as she looks up into his eyes and melts into his arms. It would seem that Jalal has crossed his Rubicon. Or has he?

Frankly, I do not know.  Neither, I suspect, does any of you. Perhaps not even the script writers;  I  was once told by Chetan Hansraj, when I met him in Montreal in 2006, that   the script is written and rewritten on the sets on the day of the shoot.

But let us first go thru the different stages of the Jalal-Atifa and Jalal-Jodha relationships during these 5 episodes, and see if the  second influenced the first, and if so, how much.  I shall take this, mainly to please my dear Adiana, episode by episode,beginning with No. 297 of Thursday before last. En avant, folks!

Episode 297:

Jalal-Jodha:  All is still well betweent them, and at the Tansen  concert, he asks her how she likes her gift, that Tansen would now be the court musician and sing for her.  But when she spots the unveiled Atifa (now  why does the girl take off her veil to sing with Tansen? It is unnecessary,  and seems  like a discreet come on, even though till then, there is not the slightest indication that she is trying to entice Jalal), Jodha  is clearly disturbed, for she assumes, wrongly as a matter  of fact, that Jalal had painted   Atifa  because he knew her, and  was fibbing when he said it was merely his tasavvur .  It is as well that she does not quiz Jalal about this on the spot! The handholding session with Atifa after Tansen has been  dismissed makes matters worse for Jodha, accustomed  for long to Jalal’s unwavering adoration.

NB: Can Balaji not get a chap, say a film poster painter of the old school,  to do decent likenesses? The Atifa portrait looks as frightful as the one of Chand Begum!  hpee  Any why, oh why, does Tansen sing the same song, Prem ras hai bheeni bheeni,  three times? Surely he knows a few more?  hpee 

Jalal-Atifa: It is the beginning of Jalal’s inexplicable obsession with her. As the Shahenshah, he is used  to doing exactly what he wants to, and the onlookers can like it or lump it. So he  gazes unwinkingly at this new nightingale, whose voice mesmerises him. As he tells the reluctant Tansen in a remarkably poetic flourish, Ek nayi awaaz bilkul taazi hoti hai, os ki boond ki tarah, us mein koyi milawat nahin hota .. In the process, he disappoints Jodha, who is looking to exchange loving side glances with him.

The concert over,  Jalal not only rewards Atifa with one of his multiple pearl haars, but he  holds her hand as well. At that moment, his eyes look almost possessed, as if he was hypnotised and was acting under  a will other than  his own. Especially when she raises her eyes to his and smiles with sudden sweetness, and later when he spots the wound in her palm.

His state of mind is best summed up by what he says to himself back in his rooms: Atifa mein kuch to hai jo humein uski or kheencha chala ja raha hai.. Then, eyeing that ghastly daub he has made, Tum bahut khoobsoorat ho (I would never have guessed that from the portrait!).. Hum nahin jaante tumhein dekhne ke baad humein kya hota ja rahaa hai..  

The baby-faced  Circe, an innocent one  but a Circe nonetheless, has  cast her spell over Jalaluddin Muhammad Akbar.

Episode 298:

Jalal-Jodha:  His  first blow up with her, in front of Khyber’s prison,  is an  one-sided affair, where Jalal, for the first time, upbraids her harshly for flouting his command that she never enter the prison, and adds,   again for the first time, Aap hamari beinteha mohabbat ka naajayaz  fayda utha rahi hain, apni manmani karne ke liye..

Then comes something far more serious, if  Jodha had only had the sense to listen and grasp  it: Hamari mohabbat ki wajah se aap  bhool gayin ki ek shauhar apni biwi se kaise pesh aata hai, aur use kaisi bandishon mein rakta hai..Us biwi ki koyi nahin sunta jo apne shauhar ki ummeedon par khari nahin utar sakti.

This is the beginning of his alienation from Jodha,  but the foolish girl cannot understand the signs that are blowing in the wind. Led back to her rooms like an erring schoolgirl, Jodha merely pouts and asserts that as  a Begum, not a mere daasi (this contempt for the lower orders last surfaced with Benazir!)  she too has her adhikar aur uttardaayitva..

There are none so blind as those who will not see.  She then proceeds, in the next episode,  to  demonstrate that for her,  “All ij well”,  by giving  a Rajvanshi kunwari ka vachan  that the Champavat princess would not be force to marry a vidharmi.Unki ichcha ke viruddh, hum kuch bhi nahin hone denge.   It never enters Jodha’s  pretty head that the Shahenshah might have other ideas  about the planned marriage.  And why should it, when she has, till now, always been able to get  Jalal to do whatever she wanted,  even if  was to  pardon Sharifuddin, a baaghi,  or Khyber, who had tried to kill Jalal, not to speak of kidnapping Jodha herself.  But the times they are  a changing, as she will soon find out.

The first such indication comes  at episode end, when Jodha goes to Jalal’s rooms to ask him why he was not taking her with him for the shikar. After  she has eased him into his over dress, he turns. His Aap?, as he spots her, and his level detached gaze as  she pouts and coquettes with him, asking if he is still angry with her, all speak volumes. Of course only  to those with the eyes to see!

Jalal-Atifa: Jalal’s entry into her riyaaz   session with Tansen is marked by a certain surface formality. He calls her Mohatarma,  but the signs are there and Tansen, his face creased with suppressed disapproval of such goings on, does not miss them.

As for the next stage, when Jalal rushes to console Atifa after her husband has  landed her a couple of juicy slaps for refusing to  come away from Agra with him, it  is precipitated solely  by Atgah’s folly in informing Jalal that Atifa’s husband beats her. Jalal’s overwhelming concern for her gushes forth Hum tumhein akele, tumhari kismat par nahin chhod sakte.. Hum hain aapke saath..  and he holds her hand as his face melts in empathy with her suffering.  It takes Atgah’s timely entry  to put an end to this touching interlude and take Jalal away.

But worse is in store for the by now seriously worried Atgah. When Jalal announces his shikar plans, he cleverly gets Atgah  himself to rule out Jodha Begum,  and then  proceeds to rule  out all the other begumat on his  own.  Then comes the clincher, uttered, as a seemingly throwaway line  with face turned away in apparent casualness:  Tansen Sahib aur unke shagird. Unke sabi shagird.  Both Jalal’s body language and facial expressions were alike superb in this  snippet, while my heart went out to the beleagured Atgah, who sees doom  fast approaching.

Episode 299:

Jalal-Jodha:  The way in which Jalal, after his initial  excuse of her condition does not work,  turns Jodha’s own earlier arguments,  that all the begums should be treated alike, on herself  was a treat to behold. His face was smooth and unruffled,  his voice and his words both sincere and persuasive.  He does not look the least bit guilty, not even when Jodha  stops and stares for a  long moment at the portrait of Atifa.  His eyes are watchful, yes, but not guilty,  or even disturbed.

Jodha  does not ask him why he (as she thinks) lied to her about it; perhaps a  new awkwardness, a new hesitation, stops her. But  even had she done so, I am sure Jalal would have  sailed thru neatly. The contrast between this Jalal, and the one who, when caught, in all innocence,  in the hamaam with Atifa, turned and stared at Jodha as if paralysed, his  eyes wide  open in shock, is striking.

But for all that Jodha does not want to face  the possibility,  the fact  is that it has seeped into her subconscious and surfaces in a nightmare about Jalal and Atifa cosying up to each other. Remember that she does not as yet know that Jalal has taken Atifa with him on the shikar.  

Jalal-Atifa:  Having maneouvred to get her all to himself after easing out Atgah and Tansen at the end of the  journey, Jalal behaves  like a young man in the  throes of a first love, showing off his skills with the spear and revelling in Atifa’s unstinted admiration.  He is now not thinking of right and wrong, of the proprieties or  of rules that even a Shahenshah should not break. He is as if besotted, and Atifa, never overtly coquettish but sweet and pliable, feeds his obsession with her, as a  despairing Atgah watches from afar.

Matters go  from bad to worse at the  evening singing session, where Jalal dismisses Tansen with surprising abruptness and declares that he will listen only to Atifa. Now, remembering Tansen’s obnoxious behaviour on his first visit to Agra, I was quite pleased to see him being taken down a peg! But Atgah was  predictably shocked and distressed.

When he voices his distress and tells Jalal plainly that what he is up to with Atifa is not just a  galti,   but a gunaah-e-azeem,  Jalal comes out for the  first time with what she has come to mean for him.  He does not contest the accusation against him. He confesses that he knows he is the wrong and  is being unjust to his begumat, especially to Jodha Begum. But…

Jab bhi hum Atifa ko gaana gaate sunte hain, hum khud par se aapa kho dete hain. .. Jaante hain yeh galat hai.. Par sach kahein, Atifa ki soorat hi nahin, uske khayal hi humein bechain kar dete hain..Sach kahein to humein nahin laga tha ki hum Jodha Begum ke siva kisi aur se mohabbat karenge..Usne humein uska pagal bana diya hai (uska deewaana would have  been much better, but let that pass!) Aur sach kahein to humare dil ne hi hamse gaddari kar di hai.  Poor Atgah is left, understandably, speechless and depressed.

The deewaangee continues apace with Jalal niharofying Atifa’s rather nice back from outside her tent. And no, I  do not think he went in! He  is in a kind of dreamy state, where just the sight of her brings a smile  to his lips, and for now, he is content with that, and turns away. Also perhaps, the consciousness of the nainsaafi  he is doing to Jodha Begum is a definite restraining  factor. But this is not going to last, and  for reasons that have nothing to do with Atifa.

Episode 300:

Jalal-Jodha:  The blow up between them about the execution of Khyber is a classic example of mismanagement by Jodha. As I wrote long ago in my Heartbreak ++ post about the night of the dhakka,  Jodha never  has any idea of either what the other person  is thinking or feeling, and her SOP is to charge ahead regardless.

Now, once she learnt that Jalal was planning to sentence Khyber to dearth even during Ramzan, she should have sat him down and tried to coax him into dropping it, citing the evidence that Khyber was retarded and not really any more responsible for his actions than a madman would be, and that he had clearly been sent to the harem by someone else. Thus appealing to Jalal’s sense of justice towards the mentally handicapped might well have worked. But what does she do?

She completely disregards the loss of prestige for the Shahenshah and the sultanate from the incident – whence her foolish remark that Khyber had not caused any haani,  which calls forth a  furious response from Jalal. Then she actually  upbraids her husband for his lack of manushyataa, adding  Aap ko kya ho gaya hai? I could not imagine a greater piece of folly, and the reaction from Jalal, exacerbated by her two earlier instances of softness towards the darinda,  was entirely predictable.

I rather enjoyed the bit  from Jalal’s tirade about what, in Jodha’s eyes, a nek dil mard  should be like, for  it was spot on. Moreover, it   was the sort of thing he should have told her a long time ago. If he had, instead of adopting  an invariably supine attitude, accepting everything she proposed, no matter how  outrageous,  and going on and on about her ever growing list of hunars,  none of this would have happened. And  that would have  been far, far better for poor Jodha as well.

But not having received any such  salutary lessons from her husband, Jodha was her usual preachy self  even when faced with  a livid Jalal  who told her not to think that he was a kathputli  in her hands. She added fuel to the flames, glaring at him with her standard issue sanctimoniousness,  by telling him that he was named Akbar by the people only for his kind-heartedness.

Which, of course, did it good and proper, and as Jalal stomped away after announcing that Khyber would be executed, Jodha still saw nothing wrong in her approach. Instead, she lamented that the Shahenshah had become a bhinna vyakti,  and that she at times felt that he did not love her any more. Obviously, for Jodha, loving her should mean agreeing with her  on all things at all times!

Now this  acrimonious exchange with Jodha has one very significant effect on   Jalal’s attitude to Atifa. When he entered Jodha’s rooms, he  is still feeling a bit guilty. He apologises for not having come to her as soon as he had reached Agra, and enquires after her health. If Jodha had handled him and the Khyber issue properly, his sense of guilt would have been maintained and strengthened, and that might have kept him from doing what he does next with Atifa. But Jodha’s very clumsy approach sets him free from his consciousness of guilt

The subsequent, and even more infuriating step taken by Jodha, in full public view, to force Jalal to reverse his decision of a minute ago and spare Khyber’s life, sets the seal on this process of alienation from her in Jalal’s zehen.  As he strides away from the site of the execution, he  rages internally about how she had made a public laughing stock of him and uski mohabbat ki rusvayi ki.  

Jodha, in the meantime, has not the slightest consciousness of how humiliated Jalal feels at what she has done.  So she continues to smile contentedly at Khyber, who gazes moonily at her. If at all there is an iota of hesitation in her mind about Jalal’s reaction,  she is confident that she can talk him out of it.  She could not have  been more mistaken, but then she is   convinced  that she is always right!  

Incidentally, I could not understand Atgah’s moaning to Jodha about the change in the Shahenshah, due to  doosre shaks ka asar, as if it was Atifa who was influencing him in the Khyber issue. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Jalal is furious with Khyber  from the time of the attack on the palace, and no wonder. Jodha’s constantly taking Khyber’s side, even after his getting into the harem, produces an even more harsh reaction than might have otherwise been the case. It has nothing to do with Atifa!

Episode 301:

Jalal-Jodha: Jodha fails to talk to Jalal at his jungi shamsheer riyaaz  with Mansingh, which was a treat to watch, though by the end of it,  Mansingh must have been convinced that he had a lucky escape!   hpee 

Her Ammijaan’s somewhat lukewarm reaction and lack of instant and total endorsement of her action re: Khyber, and her point about Jalal feeling deeply humiliated (surely the first time this occurred to  Jodha!),  must have surprised and dismayed  Jodha  a bit,  but not enough to make her do any introspection and see where she might have gone wrong.

Then comes the mother of all blow ups as Jalal lands up in her hoojra. I do not propose to repeat the whole of his furious tirade,  but the following points merit attention:

-          Aapne hamara istemal kiya.Aapne hamari di huyi taquat ko hamare hi khilaaf istemal kiya hai. Aaj ke baad hum aapko aisi koyi taquat nahin denge jo aap hamare khilaaf istemal kar saken.


-          Sab ke saamne dikha diya ki ek Shahenshah apni  begum ke saamne kitna majboor hai.Mazak bana diya hai aapne hamara.


-          Aapke liye aapke guroor se badkar kuch bhi nahin hai.


-          Galti humari hai. Aaj tak humne aapki gustakhiyon ko nazarandaz karte rahe, aapki himakaton ko maaf karte rahe.Humne aapke  liye itne badalao kiye taki aap khush reh sakein. Par ab humein lagta hai ki aap hamari mohabbat aur hamari do huyi azaadi ke layak hi nahin thin

The last line is the deadliest of all, for the “nahin thin”  means with retrospective effect, and it is as harsh and decisive as the clanging of a prison door. Jalal’s perceived sense of alienation from Jodha  is complete, and this has an immediate impact on what he does next re: Atifa, for Jalal now feels free to do whatever he wants to,  berokh tok ke.

Jalal-Atifa:  Tormented still by what happened with Khyber, and goaded further by Sharifuddin’s malicious remarks about Jalal’s weakness because of his begumat, Jalal now heads straight for Atifa’s rooms,  heedless of what the consequences might be if her husband  caught them together.

I have already covered the whole of that scene, between a deeply disturbed and grim Jalal driven by emotions beyond his control,  and a fearful,  hesitant and, in the end, yielding Atifa. 

Future options: Now let us  discuss the future possibilties in brief,  even while realising that no logical conclusions are at all likely to be correct!

Jalal: One thing is for sure. Atifa’s husband is going accuse Jalal of zinakari  before the maulvis, who might, after having been drastically  sidelined by Jalal on all  non-religious matters,   pounce on this opportunity to crucify him on a purely religious charge. It looks like a repeat of the butparasti  episode, where Jalal, to my horror (see my post 100A, The demands of Rajadharma) offered to  abdicate. That was an act of supreme folly, as he would have, in effect,  abandoned his  awaam  to a bloody civil  war between the contestants for the throne. I hope he does not offer us a repeat performance  now.

This said, Jalal is  on much weaker ground now. He cannot adopt a high  moral stand as he did then,  and I cannot imagine Sheik Salim Chisti bailing him out this time. What he is doing would, in the Army, have had him court-martialled for “alienating the affections”  of  another man’s wife,  and would not be at all acceptable in any other stratum of society either.  That Atifa’s husband beats her is neither here nor there; Jalal can hardly make that a basis for separating them and keeping Atifa for himself, even if she wants desperately for him to do so. At the most, she can use it, if she decides to do so, to seek a divorce from him, but that would be for her to do, not for the Shahenshah.

Then there is the other, unpleasant aspect of Jalal having, apparently fallen out of love with the woman whom he indulged and adored till very recently and, far more important,  who is going  to be the mother of  his twin children. Whatever Jodha’s follies, and there are many, no one would condone Jalal’s having, in effect ditched her emotionally at a time when she needs him the most, even if she continued to enjoy all the privileges of  her rank.

The TE option: I would love it if it could be shown in the end that Jalal was doing all this wooing of Atifa and  risking a zinakari  charge with a teda plan in mind, to unmask someone – Atifa? Her husband? – who was working to get him dethroned on this pretext, failing all else. If one pursues this option seriously, many  small points, like Atifa somehow managing to get into the Shahi hamaam at just the right time to run into Jalal, or Atifa’s veil coming off in the Diwan-e-Khas so opportunely, could be fitten into it.

It is true that this one does not seem too  likely, going by the  Tasleem and the Benazir precedents, but  then, hope dies hard in the human breast!

Barring this Teda Emperor  daydream, one will have to fall back on the zinakari charge being dismissed on some technical ground. I do not  see how Jodha can possibly save  Jalal on this one, but then the word “impossible” does not exist in the bakwaas  dictionary (apologies to Chennai Express!)  of the Jodha Akbar CVs. I can only hope not!

Atifa: As for Atifa, I do not see her as a seductive temptress. She looks like a bewildered, childish woman, whose reactions to Jalal’s initial attentions are like those of a child pleased to receive such consideration and kindness,  for the first time in her tormented life with a brutish husband.  She is delighted with her gifts just as a child would be. And which woman in her situation would not fall for  an emperor, and such a handsome one at that?

I rather like her,  and I do hope she does not suddenly turn into a vicious villain.

The other question would be about her identity. Maybe she will turn out to be a relative of Jalal’s, perhaps a stepsister, which would immediately re-arrange their relationship and sort out everything at one go.

Questions: 1) How come a Muslim woman from Kabul can   sing classical Hindu bhajans with such impeccable delivery and  fervour? It is very odd and might well hide a secret.
2) Does Atifa's husband keep her in just one costume, that red and green one? It is even worse than Ruqaiya's red dupatta outfit, in which she must have appeared 100 times by now! hpee 


Jodha: She has a lot to learn about men and  marriage, and after this present imbroglio is sorted out ( there was a charming, if saccharine segment in the special Eid programme on Zee, of Jalal coming to wish Jodha Eid Mubarak and looking  forward to  all four of them celebrating it next year, so maybe it is going to be resolved very soon),  I hope she learns a solid lesson from it.  However, I somehow doubt this one!

Right now, she  is going to ask Jalal about Atifa, a capital  tactical mistake, thus opening the way for him to tell her that yes, he loves Atifa. Which would at once limit Jodha’ s future options drastically.  Next, she is going to raise the Champavat princess issue, with results that can be easily  imagined!

My profound apologies for foisting this, my longest post yet, on you  folks. I can only  state, in my defence, that the idea was not mine!

 

Shyamala B.Cowsik


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Re: Jodha Akbar 297-301: The Atifa Code

Post by Tanthya on 2014-08-08, 17:31

Absorbing reading, Since I am out of  JA grid until  I see a semblance of Jalaluddin Mohammed in the present Ekta's Toy boy hero..I have been making do with WU , which cannot capture the essence of the episode IMO..

I had mentioned in another post, the fact that jalal seems to be without conflict (moral kind) seems to denote there is something bigger cooking up..Until then one has to wait patiently..

Thanks  fr the read, Sasha

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Post by sashashyam on 2014-08-08, 17:33

Thanks a lot, my dear, but Sasha is my son! Shyamala B.CowsikTanthya wrote:Absorbing reading, Since I am out of  JA grid until  I see a semblance of Jalaluddin Mohammed in the present Ekta's Toy boy hero..I have been making do with WU , which cannot capture the essence of the episode IMO..

I had mentioned in another post, the fact that jalal seems to be without conflict (moral kind) seems to denote there is something bigger cooking up..Until then one has to wait patiently..

Thanks  fr the read, Sasha

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Post by Tanthya on 2014-08-08, 17:40

sashashyam wrote:
Thanks a lot, my dear, but Sasha is my son! Shyamala B.CowsikTanthya wrote:Absorbing reading, Since I am out of  JA grid until  I see a semblance of Jalaluddin Mohammed in the present Ekta's Toy boy hero..I have been making do with WU , which cannot capture the essence of the episode IMO..

I had mentioned in another post, the fact that jalal seems to be without conflict (moral kind) seems to denote there is something bigger cooking up..Until then one has to wait patiently..

Thanks  fr the read, Sasha

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Post by sashashyam on 2014-08-08, 17:56

So do I, which is why I named my Siddhartha Sasha, wrote:, for his pet name,  seeing that I could not call him Alexander!ShyamalaTanthya
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I had mentioned in another post, the fact that jalal seems to be without conflict (moral kind) seems to denote there is something bigger cooking up..Until then one has to wait patiently..

Thanks  fr the read, Sasha

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Post by Konron on 2014-08-08, 19:18

Shyamalaji, Its always a treat to read your posts...I am just going with the story as it unfolds...do not really want to mathafod over the not so brainy CVs , but it would be great for once if they show as Jalal being teda  and fully aware of some plan against jodha and himself by whomsoever the cvs want  him to doubt and to decode their intentions...(without help from anyone .)

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Post by sashashyam on 2014-08-08, 19:26

Thank you so much, my dear, and Amen for your TE hope!!!ShyamalaKonron wrote:Shyamalaji, Its always a treat to read your posts...I am just going with the story as it unfolds...do not really want to mathafod over the not so brainy CVs , but it would be great for once if they show as Jalal being teda  and fully aware of some plan against jodha and himself by whomsoever the cvs want  him to doubt and to decode their intentions...(without help from anyone .)

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Post by adianasr on 2014-08-08, 20:55

Gr8 take Shyamala, and I am going with the TE option - not becoz of hope but becoz of the wednesday epi where Atifa was introduced - that look which Rajat gave when Jodha enters to see Jalal with Atifa - at the first instant does look like paralysed shock at being wrongly caught - but it is paralysed shock of fear - fear that this unknw person was occupying the bath when his pregnant wife was supposed to have been there - paralysed shock of fear imagining the possibilities - and it is this paralysed shock due to fear that has made TE rise like the phoenix from the ashes.

As for the issue of zinakari and loss of throne - Jalal has taken that into consideration - and has then gone ahead and deliberately uksaoed the husband to do his worst - becoz the couple has been specifically brought here by someone to harm Jodha - and that someone needs to be ferreted out - and that someone will be the one to help Amanullah find the witness for the case of zinakari - as to how Jalal will get out of the case - well I had guessed that Amanullah is a khwajasera - and it seems perhaps this is correct - and perhaps either Jalal has guessed this or he has someone who has or will unearth this evidence for him.

As for the Jalal-Jodha relation - well this is one lesson that Jodha needed to learn long back which Jalal is teaching her now but along with that somewhere he is also testing Jodha's own faith in him - whether she has the faith in her own love for him - and from today's precap it seems Jodha is coming up crops even in this area!!!!

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Post by adianasr on 2014-08-08, 21:19

And as for Rajat's Jalal - what can be said that has not already been said - this guy is a marvel - and this particular track has been only possible for the makers becoz of him - to have maintained this complexity for more than 2 weeks worth episodes without faltering even once - this calls for a level of giftedness that boggles the mind!!!!

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Post by zuzana on 2014-08-08, 22:23

Shyamala ji I am back to Jodha Akbar after a long break..somehow Jallu falling for atifa and the discomfort jodha is experiencing seeing her hubby fall in love is making me all curious...I would say not just curious actually I am enjoyign her discomfort  hppy 

What would I give to see Jodha realise the true worth of pure love..I am sure Jalal has his reasons or should I say CVs have their own reasons and script but for the mean time I am so looking forward to see Jodha go thru this hell...she deserves it completely..sorry for being so ruthless but she has gone too ahead with taking advantage of Jalals love..I so agree with his words when he says she is not worth him

I am sure the CVs would again end this track with Jalal apologising and Jodha once again savign Jalal and winning over but for the time being I am enjoying seeing her at the disadvantage.  hpee 

I agree with you Shyamala ji completely wishing praying that this would be lesson to Jodha and not for Jalal please CVs if ur listening...and also about Atifa I agree she is just riding along the tides .

it was a pleasure reading you and what an absolute detailed vision you present ..just marvellous  Clap 

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Post by sandhya on 2014-08-08, 22:25

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I was totally prepared for a Jalal lattoo over Atifa and was happy of his having regained his spine in his dealings with Jodha Begum. But Adi and Khushi have totally infected me with their TE theory. Either ways, I am happy about this track. Jalal doesn't breathe Jodha Begum and count her hunars alone. Either he has it in him to relegate Jodha Begum or he has it in him to outwit others and find the truth as a one-man army, another Ratanpur Qila Jalal. Even if he is pretending, Jodha Begum would have got the scare of her life and realised where she stands without his backing. I am loving this track. Rajat iss simply fabulous. Heart

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Post by sandhya on 2014-08-08, 22:27

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Waiting for your posts on Yudh - 15 and 16. hpee 

Just 4 more to go. Shocked

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Post by sashashyam on 2014-08-09, 01:25

Tomorrow, my dear. This one took me most of Friday, and I could not do the one for Yudh 15 on Thursday,so I shall do both on Saturday. I was distressed by the falling out between Yudh and Anand, that was the one thing I, and you,  had hoped would not happen. Well, at least Creep No. 1  has been despatche to the netherworld  by his beloved wife. Shyamala Auntysandhya wrote:Aunty
Waiting for your posts on Yudh - 15 and 16. hpee 

Just 4 more to go. Shocked

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Post by sashashyam on 2014-08-09, 01:31

Yes, my dear, I am somehow not convinced of the TE option, but that does not matter. This is a nice enough change as it is. Only Jalal's tirades against Jodha are becoming repetitive, with the same points being made in the same language. Why can they not write fresh lines for him. And I do not like the scrunched up nose making  a reappearance! And you have not told me how you liked this marathon post; it took so much out of me! First the watching and the note taking, and then the typing!Shyamala Auntysandhya wrote:aunty
I was totally prepared for a Jalal lattoo over Atifa and was happy of his having regained his spine in his dealings with Jodha Begum. But Adi and Khushi have totally infected me with their TE theory. Either ways, I am happy about this track. Jalal doesn't breathe Jodha Begum and count her hunars alone. Either he has it in him to relegate Jodha Begum or he has it in him to outwit others and find the truth as a one-man army, another Ratanpur Qila Jalal. Even if he is pretending, Jodha Begum would have got the scare of her life and realised where she stands without his backing. I am loving this track. Rajat iss simply fabulous. Heart

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Post by sashashyam on 2014-08-09, 01:37

Thank you, my dear. I did it only for you,  and of course for Anjali too.

You raise so many fascinating possibilities, Adiana,that my head is spinning! I do hope the TE option works. But  who do you think Atifa is really?

As for Jodha, so what else  is new? She will NEVER learn anything, and I was amused by her lamenting to Salima,  Nahin pata Shahenshah mujhe kis apradh ka dand de rahe hain! This after he has yelled it at her  twice already, and as for Salima's response, that was even worse.

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adianasrGr8 take Shyamala, and I am going with the TE  option - not becoz of hope but becoz of the wednesday epi where Atifa was introduced - that look which Rajat gave when Jodha enters to see Jalal with Atifa - at the first instant does look like paralysed shock at being wrongly caught - but it is paralysed shock of fear - fear that this unknw person was occupying the bath when his pregnant wife was supposed to have been there - paralysed shock of fear imagining the possibilities - and it is this paralysed shock due to fear that has made TE rise like the phoenix from the ashes.

As for the issue of zinakari and loss of throne - Jalal has taken that into consideration - and has then gone ahead and deliberately uksaoed the husband to do his worst - becoz the couple has been specifically brought here by someone to harm Jodha - and that someone needs to be ferreted out - and that someone will be the one to help Amanullah find the witness for the case of zinakari - as to how Jalal will get out of the case - well I had guessed that Amanullah is a khwajasera - and it seems perhaps this is correct - and perhaps either Jalal has guessed this or he has someone who has or will unearth this evidence for him.

As for the Jalal-Jodha relation - well this is one lesson that Jodha needed to learn long back which Jalal is teaching her now but along with that somewhere he is also testing Jodha's own faith in him - whether she has the faith in her own love for him - and from today's precap it seems Jodha is coming up crops even in this area!!!!

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Post by sashashyam on 2014-08-09, 01:40

Thank you so much, my dear Zuzana, and as for Jodha, I feel exactly the same as you do, only I do not feel the least bit sorry about it. In any case, any lesson she learns from this will be very soon forgotten. I loved seeing he scowl when Atifa started singing in tonight's episode.Shyamalazuzana wrote:Shyamala ji I am back to Jodha Akbar after a long break..somehow Jallu falling for atifa and the discomfort jodha is experiencing seeing her hubby fall in love is making me all curious...I would say not just curious actually I am enjoyign her discomfort  hppy 

What would I give to see Jodha realise the true worth of pure love..I am sure Jalal has his reasons or should I say CVs have their own reasons and script but for the mean time I am so looking forward to see Jodha go thru this hell...she deserves it completely..sorry for being so ruthless but she has gone too ahead with taking advantage of Jalals love..I so agree with his words when he says she is not worth him

I am sure the CVs would again end this track with Jalal apologising and Jodha once again savign Jalal and winning over but for the time being I am enjoying seeing her at the disadvantage.  hpee 

I agree with you Shyamala ji completely wishing praying that this would be lesson to Jodha and not for Jalal please CVs if ur listening...and also about Atifa I agree she is just riding along the tides .

it was a pleasure reading you and what an absolute detailed vision you present ..just marvellous  Clap 

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Post by sandhya on 2014-08-09, 01:56

sashashyam wrote:
Yes, my dear, I am somehow not convinced of the TE option, but that does not matter. This is a nice enough change as it is. Only Jalal's tirades against Jodha are becoming repetitive, with the same points being made in the same language. Why can they not write fresh lines for him. And I do not like the scrunched up nose making  a reappearance! And you have not told me how you liked this marathon post; it took so much out of me! First the watching and the note taking, and then the typing!Shyamala Auntysandhya wrote:aunty
I was totally prepared for a Jalal lattoo over Atifa and was happy of his having regained his spine in his dealings with Jodha Begum. But Adi and Khushi have totally infected me with their TE theory. Either ways, I am happy about this track. Jalal doesn't breathe Jodha Begum and count her hunars alone. Either he has it in him to relegate Jodha Begum or he has it in him to outwit others and find the truth as a one-man army, another Ratanpur Qila Jalal. Even if he is pretending, Jodha Begum would have got the scare of her life and realised where she stands without his backing. I am loving this track. Rajat iss simply fabulous. Heart
The post was a pleasant surprise, and as usual . By now I am as used to your posts as one is to his/her mom's cooking. We hardly tell her that it is delicious.

Before I start, one huge round of applause from me, in which I am sure all of you will join in,  to Rajat's Jalal. This was a complex, haunted, bewildered, grim and  obsessed take on the character, which at places gave one goose pimples. Right and wrong, folly and recklessness, do not enter into this assessment of what was a superb, layered, and utterly convincing performance. Take a bow, Rajat!

He rocked.  Party2 

Any why, oh why, does Tansen sing the same song, Prem ras hai bheeni bheeni,  three times? Surely he knows a few more?  

We should be thankful that he didn't sing the same old 'In aankhon mein hum'

Jalal's falling for Atifa has been sudden and in your face. Also Jalal who has yearned for a waaris as though he is 50 and yet childless can't be so angry with Jodha now, when he has been more accommodating when Jodha has been more rude and nasty to him. So TE theory is a possibility. Today he was back to his usual stares.

Also, Jo was fuming thinking that Jalal would be with Atifa. Then what is wrong in Ruqaiya's fumes when Jalal is lattoo over Jo? Jodha tells Salima that 'He promised that he loves me most'. When it is tearing her that he is loving another, wouldn't it have torn Ruqaiya when Jalal gave her place of importance to Jodha after he told her repeatedly that 'Nobody can take your place in my life Ruqaiya'


But the Thurs Yudh Precap dumped my spirits. Anand was livid with Yudh. Now what did yudh do to invite that? How are they going to cover up and explain the whole lot in 4 episodes?

Also I didn't understand who that Agent Singh was and why Anand goes to meet him.

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Post by harrybird on 2014-08-09, 08:44

WOW! THANK YOU SO MUCH AUNTY !!!

AWESOME POST !!!

MY JALLU & MY AUNTY...BOTH ARE BACK WITH BANG !!!




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Post by ---Khushi--- on 2014-08-09, 11:58

Aunty....fabulous post, as usual....well,  honestly,  my appreciation HAS to stop at this point itself, coz I m convinced of TE'S return, since last Friday itself....he had actually returned on wed, but I caught on from Friday. ....all the nuances of RT'S acting, coupled with the unintentional clues which the cvs have been giving, got Adi n me convinced on this....

If time permits, kindly visit my posts on IF when u log in for Yudh forum...we have all sorely missed u there this whole of last week n mentioned your name on innumerable occasions....

My almost nil interest in JA got revived to 100% interest with this current Atifa track.....I have also made a post on MA on IF, as i expect it to be her swansong week.....she is the mastermind behind Atifa, n I have explained it there, how....

I would once again like to make a humble request to u, Aunty to visit JA IF, n give your opinions on my takes there.....of course, I would totally understand if u didn't. .....

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Post by adianasr on 2014-08-09, 12:58

Shayamala, I too would add to Khushi's request - do visit IF when you can and peek into both the posts by Khushi - and we both have to say that along with the incredible return of TE and the brilliance of Rajat onscreen - what had both of us rollicking was the chest beating from last wednesday till yesterday on the forum - it was not just hilarious, it was howlarious!!!!!!

And as Khushi says it - this is definitely MA - and even this clue was given on this wednesday's epi when MA entered the frame for the 1st time - and went running to Ruqs - but the most telling were her words - that this behaviour will affect the Emperor's rutba - she said nothing of this having the potential to dethrone him - becoz that would not get Ruqs to react the way she did in the nest epi!!!!

Ah.... yes MA will be sorely missed!!!! - there is no one like her as a villain!!!!!! And the Jalal - MA chemistry is something else altogether - no protagonist could have asked for a better antagonist - and Rajat and Ashwini bring that X-factor to the frame when together.

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Post by munnirony on 2014-08-09, 13:00

aunty, i dont know wht will happen in the end, but right now im enjoying rajat to the fullest & seems like rajat is also enjoying this track. honestly, im also not sure about the TE thing, but i feel he is hypnotized or under sum spell. honestly, im loving jalal's words to jodha bcoz thts wht i always wanted to say to jodha, but the prob is tht jodha will be always right & in the end we will be back to square one with jalal crying buckets for his "gunah-e-azim".

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Post by adianasr on 2014-08-09, 13:05

As for Atifa - there are so many options of what she could be that the mind boggles!!!!

She could be a kabul assassin import by Nigar and MA with the man acting as her husband being a Khwajasera provided by MA

She could be an assassin of MA's with the man acting her husband being a khwajasera also working for MA

She could also be Jalal's own mole with the man being a KS also being Jalal's own man

The possibilities are endless if one looks at this as the TE option - which is why I am going with it - it piques the interest which had hit rock bottom last week tuesday!!!!!

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Post by ---Khushi--- on 2014-08-09, 13:55

adianasr wrote:As for Atifa - there are so many options of what she could be that the mind boggles!!!!

She could be a kabul assassin import by Nigar and MA with the man acting as her husband being a Khwajasera provided by MA

She could be an assassin of MA's with the man acting her husband being a khwajasera also working for MA

She could also be Jalal's own mole with the man being a KS also being Jalal's own man

The possibilities are endless if one looks at this as the TE option - which is why I am going with it - it piques the interest which had hit rock bottom last week tuesday!!!!!



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how can she be Jalal's own mole?????.....impossible...our entire theory falls flat if this happens...

we believe that Ma & Nigaar are hands in glove in this zinakari track....hence, its either Ma or Nigar who has planted her...either ways, that is inconsequential to this track, & to the overall storyline....but it most definitely cant be Jalal's own mole..... Evil or Very Mad  Evil or Very Mad  Evil or Very Mad 

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Post by ---Khushi--- on 2014-08-09, 13:58

munnirony wrote:aunty, i dont know wht will happen in the end, but right now im enjoying rajat to the fullest & seems like rajat is also enjoying this track. honestly, im also not sure about the TE thing, but i feel he is hypnotized or under sum spell. honestly, im loving jalal's words to jodha bcoz thts wht i always wanted to say to jodha, but the prob is tht jodha will be always right & in the end we will be back to square one with jalal crying buckets for his "gunah-e-azim".
Munni.....I hope u realise that you are on the verge of toppling Sandhya from the first position in the long long lonnnnnng queue of people to be dhakelofied in the well which is connected via a tunnel directly into Ruqu's chamber......  hpee

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Post by adianasr on 2014-08-09, 14:12

Khushi, Atifa as Jalal's mole gives credence to the TE theory but the other 2 options give credence to both TE and MA theories - and btw my pick is option 1 since I suspect Nigar 'aapa' also in this saazish!!!!

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