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Post by adianasr on 2014-08-27, 13:22

Infact the Jalal - Jodha scenes are perhaps now to keep the so-called Akhda fans and the PS fans quiet I feel - the meat of the show most probably will come from Jalal aka Rajat and the others - as for Ashoka, oh yes Rajat would fit the role to the T - and height wise also - Ashoka was also of average height it is said - but I would prefer it was made by someone who had more feel for history and who came with the last scene shot thus keeping a limit to the epis in mind - such shows need their 'full stop' in place !!!!!

But the one role that I would like to see Rajat in is a modern take on Prof. Moriarity

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Post by sashashyam on 2014-08-27, 13:27

Oh, yes, Adiana, he would be superb as a cool, subtle, and totally evil genius. What a treat it would be to watch him sink his teeth into such a juicy role!And \"so-called Akdha fans" is just right! I do not  know what they stand for and what they want, and I suspect that they have no idea either!As for Asoka, Shahrukh forced even  a very talented director like Santosh Sivan to massacre the role  in his awful film. Yes,  one would need a bound script and an unyielding visionary to do justice to Asoka the Great on TV. Shyamala adianasr wrote:Infact the Jalal - Jodha scenes are perhaps now to keep the so-called Akhda fans and the PS fans quiet I feel - the meat of the show most probably will come from Jalal aka Rajat and the others - as for Ashoka, oh yes Rajat would fit the role to the T - and height wise also - Ashoka was also of average height it is said - but I would prefer it was made by someone who had more feel for history and who came with the last scene shot thus keeping a limit to the epis in mind - such shows need their 'full stop' in place !!!!!

But the one role that I would like to see Rajat in is a modern take on Prof. Moriarity

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Re: Jodha Akbar 309-313: An accordion finish

Post by sandhya on 2014-08-28, 14:34

Shaheer Sheikh who played Arjun in Mahabharat is undoubtedly good looking but doesn't he look ready to cry at any moment. The confused and unsettled expressions and the teary ones come easily to him.  Of course i didn't see the earlier episodes of Mahabharat but when he wanted to revenge Abhimanyu and was all out to destroy Jayadrath i thought he totally lacked that blood thirsty rage. He is  too soft to play the early life of Askoka.

Rajat would be just perfect. After his ja experience i am sure weeping and repenting (in Kalinga war ) would be a child's play too.

And watching him without being addled with a non co operating co star would be a treat. Yesterday's so called romance was like day before yesterday's soup aunty, not yesterday's.  There had to be 2 inches between his hands and her mouth too. Poor guy! Just forcing himself to bring out the best expressions possible when there is no interest involved (perhaps the way you are, when we insist for a post. but aunty your posts are like fresh hot soup). So may be we could ask you  for some more. Esp on yesterday's episode, ak-jalal and the jalal-ma scenes.

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Post by lashy on 2014-08-28, 15:42

sashashyam wrote:


I love the term Lashykanna, there is such a tone of endearment to it. I still call Sasha Kanna or Kannappa when I talk to him.
hpee  How sweet!

Well, as for the Atifa track, yes, I liked it for the scope it gave Rajat to do something very different from the poodle act he had  begun to specialise in of late, and even more so, I was delighted  because Jalal came out on top by himself, and that too in  a very tough situation. 

I also liked the Jalal-Atifa scenes; I was not one of those who disliked Atifa on principle and wanted to consign her summarily to perdition. The Jalal-Jodha scenes, even now that they are supposed to be so much in love, do not have any of the  total absorption, the deewaangee, that Rajat's Jalal brought to those scenes with Atifa, for all that he was faking.
Yes you are right.... I share the same views on the track.. there are loose ends.. after all, the CVs are no Agatha Christie.. so, if they attempted one, Jalal comes out looking like a strange mix of Mr Poirot and his spoof!  hppy
But I did not much like the denoument, which reminded me, in its confusion and  loose ends, of  the Lakhi track.  Remember, Lashykanna, that Jalal, ruminating in his hoojra after the concert where Atifa sings, tells himself: Tum mein kuch to hai, Atifa, jo mujhe tumhari taraf kheenchta chala jaata hai..Then looking at the horrible daub of Atifa, he adds, Tum bahut khoobsurat ho.. tumhein dekhne par humein na jaane kya ho jaata hai..

Now, there is no one else there for whose benefit Jalal would be putting on this act. So what do these lines mean? It made no sense at all.
This was just to throw viewers off their tracks much like 70s movies did!  Shocked
Also, he is really angry with Jodha over the Khyber sentence annullation, and is muttering furiously to himself as he strides away about how she has shamed him in public. This too is not for anyone's benefit, and so has to be genuine anger.

Later, during her jungle safari with Khyber, Jodha endangers herself, her life and her honour, to the extreme. She does not seem to think back, even in passing,  on the horrendous possibilities . She would, but for Khyber's fortuitous arrival in the very nick of time, have ended up like Nirbhaya, and  if she had survived, would have been sold into a kotha. And for all the pat talk of jauhar, how would she get at the stuff needed for a jauhar? Her captors would have tied her hands and feet and made sure she could not kill herself.

But now she does not even get a rap on the knuckles from Jalal for such criminal folly. It was unbelievable, the way in which her idiocies are not just swept under the carpet, but Jalal ends up apologising to her! As I had written in this post, the Maryada Purushottam treated his far  less culpable wife very differently, and yes, Sita was also expecting.
Jodha's role was far more muddled up than Jalal's here - be it the Khyber issue, be it being the recipient of threats like Talaaq/anger when she was pregnant, be it 'I'm leaving to Amer' decision for nth time!

So, for me, the siyasati Jalal was what I liked in the Atifa track, but I did NOT like the way he handled his begums, and especially Jodha, at the end of the track. Now of course, once the Atgah-Adham-Mahaam interlude is over, we will be back  in poodleland soon enough, alas!

Even now, whoever was delighted with the Jalal-Jodha pyar-mohabbat scenes of last night, I was not. I thought they looked like yesterday's soup warmed up. Rajat tries very hard, but somehow they just  do not work, for there is not the slightest hint of any depth of emotion, not to speak of passion,  from Jodha's side. She has the same conventional gaon ki gori coquetry, not a queen's grand amour. They thus  end up looking stagey and fake.

The highlight for  me last night was the precap, with a silently furious Jalal looking, with his smouldering eyes under lowered brows,  like the presiding deity on the day of judgment. That was a clever touch, Mahaam seeing the bloody apparition of the young Jalal  a little earlier in her cell. It was a spooky premonition, like something out of Hamlet. Mahaam is far more interesting than Jodha Begum any day.
And what did you think of yesterday's episode, then? Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked affraid Wasn't it amazing?

I hope, my dear, that  you are being good,  looking after yourself properly, and getting enough exercise on a daily basis.  As I wrote to you, all this aaram karna chahiye is unadulterated nonsense. You should stay as active as  you can; it will stand you in good stead.
I am fine periyamma and getting all my exercise with two young boys around (and no domestic help whatsoever) so  hppy

Affectionately,

Shyamala Aunty


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Re: Jodha Akbar 309-313: An accordion finish

Post by sashashyam on 2014-08-29, 01:11

Well, my pet, it seems like you got your fresh, hot soup even before I read this! Telepathy, methinks! That was one post I  really wanted to do. And while I will be responding to your comments on the post in Dhwani, I was interested to note that you and I were almost the only ones to see that Jalal was almost as angry with  himself yesterday as with Adham. wrote:

I would not choose that Shaheer Sheikh for Asoka. I  had merely read that he was being considered. He has an impish smile at times, and a capacity for nuance that the generally more impressive Karna (Aham Sharma) did not have, but I agree with you about his display of cold fury, it just did not work. But even he would surely be better than Shahrukh was!!
Rajat would be perfect for Asoka. And as for the so-called romance, it is so cliched and stilted that I simply cannot stand it at all. I was duly grateful to be spared that over the last 2 days!

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Shaheer Sheikh who played Arjun in Mahabharat is undoubtedly good looking but doesn't he look ready to cry at any moment. The confused and unsettled expressions and the teary ones come easily to him.  Of course i didn't see the earlier episodes of Mahabharat but when he wanted to revenge Abhimanyu and was all out to destroy Jayadrath i thought he totally lacked that blood thirsty rage. He is  too soft to play the early life of Askoka.

Rajat would be just perfect. After his ja experience i am sure weeping and repenting (in Kalinga war ) would be a child's play too.

And watching him without being addled with a non co operating co star would be a treat. Yesterday's so called romance was like day before yesterday's soup aunty, not yesterday's.  There had to be 2 inches between his hands and her mouth too. Poor guy! Just forcing himself to bring out the best expressions possible when there is no interest involved (perhaps the way you are, when we insist for a post. but aunty your posts are like fresh hot soup). So may be we could ask you  for some more. Esp on yesterday's episode, ak-jalal and the jalal-ma scenes.

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simply superb- as always

Post by drveena on 2014-08-30, 19:24

dear shyamala,

you deserve this  long hug. 3 cheers to your writing  Thumbsup

regards ,

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Post by sashashyam on 2014-08-31, 21:00

My dear Veena,Thanks   a lot; I am so glad that you  really enjoyed it!Do take a look at my next 2, both here in Dhwani, Nemesis, and the very critical (of Jalal) Imperial escapism on the Friday episode. See if you like them.Shyamaladrveena wrote:dear shyamala,

you deserve this  long hug. 3 cheers to your writing  Thumbsup

regards ,

veena

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